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Today is Independence Day. Are Americans as free now as they have ever been?

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Numnudz

Jul-04-14 5:07 AM

Of course not!

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Obamabinladin

Jul-04-14 9:33 AM

Consider those who signed the Declaration of Independence and what their answer would be to this question...I'm not sure they would like what they see in our country today.

We have enslaved many through the gross abuse of entitlement programs and enslaved many more to fund these programs.

I hate to say it, but we are looking more like the USSA everyday and I'm not sure society is disciplined enough or strong enough to fix it!

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ladybug

Jul-04-14 1:18 PM

I'm not sure society is strong enough to fix it.

I believe that all starts in Washington with the president, congress and senate..

Seems like gridlock , finger pointing ,and passing the buck is their only concern,

Oh and getting re-elected which they will soon spend the rest of the summer doing.

As they are scheduled for recess in middle of July for the balance of the year until elections are over ,.Yawn !!!

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ladybug

Jul-04-14 1:22 PM

Like everything else they will just put things off until it turns into a crisis.

Lets see the presidents poll rating is 41 % and congress about 11 %

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ladybug

Jul-04-14 1:23 PM

And come election time everyone will go out and vote the same worthless bunch back in .

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Kozy62

Jul-04-14 2:23 PM

ladybug...no, no, no.

Every new law passed or regulation issued is freedom taken away. Government should get out of our lives and let freedom ring!

But, there hasn't been a President since Washington or a congress since the begining that wanted to keep the government small and "just" protect us as directed by the Constitution.

It gets fixed when Washington reduces it's strangle hold on we the people and is limited...will it happen? Of course it won't under liberals. They want even more control. But, will conservatives have the courage to fix it...???

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Numnudz

Jul-04-14 4:24 PM

OBL, it looks like the leeches have their long knives out for you.

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Numnudz

Jul-04-14 4:26 PM

President Obama dismantled ALL of the welfare reforms that were so hard-won during Clinton's presidency.

Leeches of the nation applaud him. Taxpayers get sqrood.

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Numnudz

Jul-04-14 4:27 PM

"But, will conservatives have the courage to fix it...??? "

Probably not, but it's worth a chance.

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questioner

Jul-04-14 5:11 PM

Kozy, I miss you posting other places.

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Kozy62

Jul-04-14 5:53 PM

Sorry questioner...very busy helping and protecting an abused lady with two little children. At my age, two little children keeps me going and tired...cuts my time from reading the papers and subsequent posting.

What do you want my comment on?

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Kozy62

Jul-04-14 5:58 PM

BTW...Judy does most of the extra work around the house but there is play time, pick up at daycare, instruction, etc.

Not complaining at all...just answering. Now off to the city's fireworks.

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questioner

Jul-04-14 6:23 PM

There is a question about Iraq. I wouldn't mind insights there.

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ts1227

Jul-04-14 8:56 PM

Are there things like the NSA, TSA, police being more heavy handed, etc. that make it clear that freedoms have been compromised? Sure.

At the same time, there basically aren't gun laws anymore, so other things have forged a path toward more freedom.

It just depends on the issue.

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WatchDog

Jul-04-14 10:09 PM

"Are there things like the NSA, TSA, police being more heavy handed, etc. that make it clear that freedoms have been compromised? Sure."

Nope, I, don't fully agree. First, NSA and TSA are Federal. Police are State. Huge difference. In fact, police today are weaker in enforcement rights than the other two. The only part I agree with in the phrase...heavy handed, is the NSA and the TSA. <grin>

As for "It just depends on the issue." That I agree with.

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WatchDog

Jul-04-14 10:22 PM

"Leeches of the nation applaud him. Taxpayers get sqrood."

Give our comedian the Gold on that statement. LOL Those leeches coming invading the country down on the borders are doing cartwheels and the tax payers haven't no clue to how they are about to get "sqrood" on that one.

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Beaumont

Jul-04-14 11:15 PM

Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush. That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country. The child “shall be promptly placed in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child,” the law stipulates. “Placement of child trafficking victims may include placement in an Unaccompanied Refugee Minor program … if a suitable family member is not available to provide care.”Department of Homeland Security (DHS) sources say more than 80 percent of these children will find permanent homes in the U.S., with either family or foster homes and not be sent back to Central America

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WatchDog

Jul-05-14 12:30 AM

Beaumont, you lost me. What does that act have to do with the 52,000 that has crossed the border this past year.

They don't fall under this law. These single moms and kids are not victims of trafficking.

At most, maybe only approx. 500 of them fall under it and still has not been determined.

At a hearing Tuesday, House Judiciary Committee Chair Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., said: “When these individuals were asked why they made the journey to the United States, approximately 95 percent indicated that the main reason was to take advantage of the NEW US LAW that grants a free pass or permit, referred to as ‘permisos,’ being issued by the U.S. government to women traveling with minors and unaccompanied alien minors.”

And that falls squarely on Obama.

Let's face it. When Obama, Pelosi and Reid kept using that megaphone declaring "we need to do away with immigration laws" is what started this invasion.

They created this crisis and now they OWN IT.

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WatchDog

Jul-05-14 12:36 AM

And now, Obama is trying to claim he is against what is happening on the border and wants to deport them but that law prevents it.

Why I don't buy it? What is Obama doing to stop them from coming into the country in the first place to stop them from taking advantage of that the alleged law causing him such hindrance now?

NOTHING

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rpmwwe

Jul-05-14 2:04 AM

Taxpayers getting sqrood?

We haven't seen the worst of it yet. If we actually paid what the federal government needed to fund their behemoth then, IN ADDITION TO what was already actually paid, every man, woman, and child on average (even those reaping the rewards of a socialist state) would have had to pay:

2008 - $1496.12 2009 - $4563.32 2010 - $4202.40 2011 - $4171.98 2012 - $3504.36 2013 - $2150.89

Of course, not every man, woman, and child pays taxes so their share would have had to been absorbed by others, and those that do pay taxes pay by what they earn so the actual numbers would be much higher for most people.

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rpmwwe

Jul-05-14 2:06 AM

I'm going to try those numbers again. They didn't copy & paste right.

2008 - $1496.12

2009 - $4563.32

2010 - $4202.40

2011 - $4171.98

2012 - $3504.36

2013 - $2150.89

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rpmwwe

Jul-05-14 2:07 AM

This would have only stopped the overspending...it would not have paid off the national debt that had accrued up until 2008.

The average for the six years is $3348.18 per person per year extra.

The median household income in the United States is $46,326.

The average number of persons per household is 2.54 people.

That averages out to be an income of $18238.58 per person when counting every man, woman, and child.

Or, 18.36% of every persons' income, in addition to taxes normally paid, would have to be forfeited to the U.S. government just to keep it running as is without a deficit from here on out. To pay off the already accrued debt, then it will be even more.

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Beaumont

Jul-05-14 3:27 AM

"NOTHING"

Now are we talking about Congress?

My family invaded the US on the east coast as a large amount of Americans did.

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Beaumont

Jul-05-14 3:36 AM

Mr. Goodlatte said there are “defects” in existing U.S. law that make it tougher to quickly deport illegal immigrants from Central America — particularly when it comes to children, who must be processed and turned over to social workers, and whose cases can take five years or more to clear the immigration courts. Many of the children will even gain legal status by claiming asylum or winning a special juvenile visa.

Last I knew Congress are the ones that make the Laws. So change them stay in Washington and fix it.

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Numnudz

Jul-05-14 5:12 AM

"At the same time, there basically aren't gun laws anymore, "

That's because the laws on the books are not being enforced.

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