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The Tea Party on Tuesday picked off the second-most powerful Republican in the House in a stunning upset. Does the surprising reemergence of that party ultimately hurt or help the GOP in general?

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rpmwwe

Jun-12-14 2:03 AM

The Republican party is in self destruct mode. Too much infighting and no one willing to clearly assess the strengths and weaknesses of Democratic party has led to no practical direction, and no practical strategy to win elections. Right now, the choices of candidates in the Republican party seem to be either the billionaire boys' club or the fire and brimstone bible thumpers. What simple minded swing voter is going to feel a connection with either type of candidate? Especially when the other team has plenty of free kool-aid that goes down so sweet and easy?

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rpmwwe

Jun-12-14 2:04 AM

Where are the candidates that represent a true cross section of the overwhelming amount of conservative moderates in this country? The far left is becoming the new moderate left only because we let them. That's going to hard to undo. My guess, the Republican party will just have to finish self destructing and then build back up all over again from scratch because the current establishment certainly will not allow a third party to emerge and take over.

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Numnudz

Jun-12-14 5:48 AM

The Republicans no longer follow conservative principles.

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Kozy62

Jun-12-14 7:34 AM

I still believe the responsibility is left with the voter to choose, whether Republican of Democrat or Tea Party or Libertarian or socialist or communist...the best candidate should be found...run...win. Considering what the Democrats/Liberals/socialists/communists have done without any support from the right make it harder to believe a word they say.

The Tea Party should be a big help in moving us back to the right...that is if the candidates don't talk about witches or other stupid things. Guess will have to see.

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Kozy62

Jun-12-14 7:44 AM

Now read what the guy says, who beat Cantor:

BRAT: I ran on Republican principles. We have this Republican creed in Virginia and the only problem with the Republican principles is no one is following them.

The first one is commitment to free markets. We don’t have any free markets in this country any more. Then equal treatment under the law, fiscal responsibility, fair taxation, constitutional adherence, peace through strong defense and faith in God and strong moral fiber. That’s what I ran on: The Republican creed. But the press is just always out there to have these exciting stories to sell papers, and the people actually do care about policy. When you’re serious… I give 30 minute stump speeches on policy, and the press made fun of me. They said ‘these aren’t good stump speeches. You’re talking serious issues.’ Well, the American people are ready for serious issues...(continued)...

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Kozy62

Jun-12-14 7:50 AM

BRAT: Some of this goes back to constitutional principles, and everybody wants the federal government to solve every problem in their life. So part of the issue is, on some of these issues, we’ve got to look at these issues in the mirror. The cultural issues, that’s not due to politicians. Our educational system, everyone thinks can be solved with spending infinite money on it, a lot of it just comes down to personal responsibility and discipline. And our test scores, we’re at the bottom of some of the OECD countries on math and science scores right now, and we’re competing with the rest of the world. So we have to do better and our kids test scores right now that's our future economy in 20 years. So fundamentals matter and everybody knows we're off track so this country has got to turn around and, you know, I’m with Reagan I’m optimistic always what the American people can do, but we got to take the shackles off the regulatory burden, something like $2 trillion out of the $17 trillio

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Kozy62

Jun-12-14 7:53 AM

BRAT: I’m with Reagan I’m optimistic always what the American people can do, but we got to take the shackles off the regulatory burden, something like $2 trillion out of the $17 trillion economy, and get rid of that you can unleash the American people and they are ready to roll.

I agree with Mr. Brat...I'm not a member of the Tea Party and he says he isn't either, but, this guy is right on! Maybe there is hope.

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GrantMingus

Jun-12-14 9:02 AM

rpm, I don't think Rand Paul fits into the billionaire boys club, or the bible thumpers. And I'd say he does pretty well with swing voters, even with quite a few people on the left.

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Beaumont

Jun-12-14 9:16 AM

Nothing will change.

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rpmwwe

Jun-12-14 12:47 PM

I agree with that, Grant. The problem seems to be that Rand Paul is more of an exception rather than a norm. I'm not saying there absolutely no candidates that can win elections...there just isn't enough of them to make a difference. There are too many different agendas within the party.

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ladybug

Jun-12-14 12:56 PM

There's too many people in Washington who forget why their there.

There supposed to vote whats best for the country and most of it's citizens.

Not the millionares ,billionares ,lobbyists or conservatives.moderates,liberals ,blacks ,white male or female. Everyone.

Every thing now will be put on hold because one idiot lost his cushy job.

Missed the other 534 0f .

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rpmwwe

Jun-12-14 12:56 PM

The Democratic party seems to have better puppet masters. They all seem to be working toward a common goal without an overt competition of agendas, and thereby seem to have better control of what is going on in their party.

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ladybug

Jun-12-14 1:02 PM

Just like some said Cantor was to busy trying to get the Speakers job and hb knobbing in DC

Now their all fighting over his job while nothing gets done.

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ladybug

Jun-12-14 1:06 PM

It's not whats going on in the party .But the fact nothing is getting period.

We have bridges ready to fall down and their cutting funding.

Where's the tax reform, just to name a few.

If they spent as time on addressing problems as they did fusing over one soldier.

The military is capable of doing it's job without all the side shows.

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Numnudz

Jun-12-14 6:55 PM

It's all Bush's fault, right, bug?

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GrantMingus

Jun-13-14 7:31 AM

Also, the Tea Party didn't do anything here. Tea Party groups didn't donate a single dime to Brat's campaign. They're just claiming victory for the press, and of course, our horrible press is giving it to them regardless of facts.

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Numnudz

Jun-13-14 4:21 PM

He did run on TEA party principles, but no, no backing I have read about.

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WatchDog

Jun-15-14 3:51 PM

Grant, come into reality. Brat ran as a Republican.

"Tea Party groups didn't donate a single dime to Brat's campaign."

That is a half truth Grant. First, any donation to or from the Tea party is not tax deductible. Brat ran as Republican, carrying forth the Tea party values as Numnudz said. What do you think all the hub bub has been about with IRS and the tax exempt drama. There is no such thing as an official tea party candidate. This whole thing in retrospect is getting out of hand. Tea Party can not donate money officially under the term TEA PARTY because that would mean they are backing a Republican. Therefore all the support and donations must come from individuals of the Tea party. This whole thing is getting whacked out. Even by the news.

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WatchDog

Jun-15-14 4:24 PM

So Grant, you making that statement like you did was a lie.

If you look at Brat's official campaign finances, you see those names listed as donors, you, me any of us can't know if those people were tea party supporters or republicans. Brat had a lot of money donated to him by the tea party members.

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GrantMingus

Jun-15-14 7:10 PM

There are Tea Party groups that collect money to donate to campaigns. Not a single one of those groups donated a single dime in any way towards Brat's campaign. This is not a lie. But as I've said before, you're psychotic, so what you see as "reality" is whatever you're making up in your own mind.

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Numnudz

Jun-16-14 7:23 AM

" Brat ran as Republican, carrying forth the Tea party values as Numnudz said."

Save you fingers, Watchdog... just call me ns :)

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WatchDog

Jun-16-14 4:57 PM

Grant, pay attention dear, it is called "campaign finances" and they are available online. It is not in my mind honey, it is "REALITY" junior. LOL

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WatchDog

Jun-16-14 5:41 PM

ns, phew, i was missing my daily comedian who never ceased to put a smile on my face!

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WatchDog

Jun-16-14 5:48 PM

"There are Tea Party groups that collect money to donate to campaigns."

Name them Grant? What groups affiliated with the Tea Party?

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Kozy62

Jun-17-14 7:25 AM

It's high time we all demanded some honesty and change...

The question of what Nixon knew about the break-in caused a national controversy when investigators discovered that 8 1/2 minutes were missing from the tapes.

Now there are two years of emails missing and a spokesman for the WH (Josh Earnest) says, questioning by democrats and republicans is "far-fetched" and "not particularly believable"...Really?

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