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Have you ever been in or known someone who has been a patient in a veterans hospital?

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Beaumont

May-18-14 10:26 AM

On both posts

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Beaumont

May-18-14 10:23 AM

questioner you are correct.

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questioner

May-18-14 10:19 AM

A lot of us are lower middle class or regular middle class but worse off than before and struggling/ working harder to make ends meet.

There is a lot of resentment, and prejudice, towards those a notch lower on the economic scale who receive government help. Whether this manifests itself towards Hispanics in town, those living in housing developments, or those who will use the sidewalk being put in down towards Walmart.

And I can't say I'm not guilty myself of judging those who aren't working and get handouts. (There, just using that word instead of "getting help" makes a statement.)

I don't see the situation improving though. The more we all struggle economically, the more resentment towards those both above and below us.

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Beaumont

May-18-14 10:18 AM

In Salem yesterday to take care of the graves. Looks the same only buildings on state falling down.

When did you have a doctor call you at home my VA heart doctor called me at home.

I use the VA web site to check on all of my meds and appointments and I can contact my doctor via e-mail.

Yes they have bad apples but what Hospitals have.

When I go I see people their to see the doctor that won't even take a bath or clean up in anyway.

Give some respect and get some back.

Never look at what color people are that drag you sorry ass to a chopper.

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questioner

May-18-14 10:07 AM

Michael Jordan was honest a couple weeks ago when he said he'd been against all whites.

So is it racist to acknowledge that there are blacks who don't like whites? It is a reality, and unfortunately one that perpetuates--Ethomas gets brushed off by a black guy, the next time he goes in he anticipates a black guy's poor treatment of him, the black guy resents that attitude, etc.

I moved here 40 years ago from an upper middle class, white collar WI city where everyone, regardless of race, held the same sort of jobs, etc.

I was shocked moving here when my sweet blue collar neighbor used the n word in normal conversation. But I learned a lot of the prejudice stemmed from economic issues--blacks had been among the "scabs" during union strikes, therefore....

In reading many posts this week, the Habitat story, the housing unit story, it brought home that locally we still have prejudice based on economic issues.

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Kozy62

May-18-14 8:51 AM

Guess we need to remember it was a different time. One of my best friends was Bill Washington...didn't know enough to hate, I guess.

Bob is liberal but no leftie and he put himself in harms way for our freedom many years ago.

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Beaumont

May-18-14 7:28 AM

Sounds like the Salem I was raised in things have not changed at all.

"It always amuses me to hear a leftie calling someone else 'racist'." Never call anyone a racist just let it stand for what it is.

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Beaumont

May-17-14 6:18 PM

"Waiting for the calls of racism from the lefties...."

It is what it is!

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questioner

May-17-14 11:58 AM

I'm sure you all know: 40 patients died waiting for care at a Phoenix VA facility.

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rpmwwe

May-17-14 2:12 AM

Throw out some blasphemy and things turn quite quickly around here.

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Beaumont

May-17-14 12:36 AM

Sorry I see what YOUR problem is!!

Must be*****being you.

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Beaumont

May-17-14 12:25 AM

I see what the problem is now.

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Ethomas38

May-16-14 8:22 PM

The patient advocates are a JOKE!! The guy in Y-Town hates his job so much he gets pi ssy if you even attempt to talk with him. Then there is the Clinic Director, Mark, He's a typical politician, Acts like your concerns matter yet NOTHING will come of it.. Now we get to the Patient Advocates in Cleveland, Oh they're a real joy. Did I mention you must be a non white person for them to even give a rats butt.. NO exaggeration, Wade Park is in a black area of a mostly black city so the majority of the employees are black and they do NOT like white people. So to say they care is to say I'm a millionaire..

Will anything ever change at the VA? I seriously doubt it. The good thing though, because I am a veteran, and my PCP is at the VA I don't have to get the Satancare being shoved down the peoples throats!

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Mtlhed

May-16-14 7:31 PM

I've never been to a VA. I've heard too many horror stories over the years, both on active duty and as a civilian. So I don't plan on ever going to one unless I have no other choices within the regular civilian system.

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Beaumont

May-16-14 4:30 PM

Patient Advocates help you with problems you must at times stay on them.

Go back to your primary care provider and also tell them your problem, you can walk in to see and voice your problem every week day from 11:00 to 1:00.

It's your life get on there ass when you need to.

Telling your congressman is a waste of time they only want your vote, If you want a good run around write or call a congressman.

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ladybug

May-16-14 12:27 PM

One politician suggested sending vets to drs, in the reg, system if time wasn't available at a VA facility.

Gee what a thought. That was worth 50 votes.

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ladybug

May-16-14 12:24 PM

I listened to the different testimony and almost all agreed it was an assessing problem and not a care issue,

Yet we got all the politicians and news channels blowing smoke everyones butt for immediate action.

Yet there's not clarity what caused the problem

Lack of funding,under staffing ?

No fear like everything else we'll hold meetings ,cry foul and sometime after the elections see if they can get it on their agenda.

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Kozy62

May-16-14 11:40 AM

This is so wrong and has been going on far too long...and now the situation needs to be corrected at once. No more excuses.

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questioner

May-16-14 10:23 AM

Ethomas, do pursue getting an answer one way or the other. Be persistent.

And as an American, I am sorry and apologize that the process has been difficult for you.

But please, keep trying until you find out everything you need to know. Keep asking to talk to someone else and don't let it go.

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Beaumont

May-16-14 7:55 AM

Yes I have been a patient in Lexington, Ky and Chillicothe, Ohio VA hospitals, also at Columbus, Ohio.

Care is much better then it was in the 60's and 70's. I have found VA Hospitals are much cleaner the most hospitals.

That's what the Patient Advocates are for if you have a problem.

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Ethomas38

May-16-14 7:32 AM

It is a fact that as a veteran, it takes months to see a Dr. at the VA Hospital in Cleveland. The Pulmonary Dept. at Wade park advised they would contact me with in the week for a follow up. That was 4 months ago, still haven't heard from them and NO ONE will return calls..

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