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questioner

May-24-14 1:28 PM

But feel free to come down on Broadway and help usher in customers to the shipping store, the second hand store, Goodwill and Lion and Lamb. I would imagine Phantom Autoworks picks up some interested Cruise people.

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questioner

May-24-14 1:26 PM

Very glad to hear he's getting catering jobs from it.

I know for retail when they put coupons in some fliers or something, response afterwards was not great at all, so I am glad to hear it is giving some repeat business for restaurants.

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GrantMingus

May-23-14 1:40 PM

That was via text, I had lunch there today and he said there have been people come back to eat there because they tried it at Super Nats quite often, and that the event has always helped him get a lot of catering work.

So, questioner, what's next on the checklist of reasons that I'm wrong, because you're failing across the board thus far.

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GrantMingus

May-23-14 10:35 AM

Mike's response: "A good amount."

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GrantMingus

May-23-14 10:20 AM

I will ask Mike though, though I doubt if he knows. His restaurant does quite well though, and Super Nats is far and away the best 3 days of his year. But I'll ask him, and let you know what he says.

By the way, let us not forget that you claimed businesses were negatively impacted, yet couldn't name any. And I even offered up my services FOR FREE to help these businesses who are allegedly suffering. So, again, you're just arguing to argue and you literally couldn't have a weaker case.

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GrantMingus

May-23-14 10:16 AM

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. You're making the case that it would be better for those businesses, who are barely hanging on during normal times, to not have several thousand people walk past their door all weekend. Your argument literally doesn't make a single bit of sense, unless of course, as a business owner you chose not to deal with the crowd and you close up shop and don't even attempt to gain an advantage from it. Arguing with stupid eventually makes us all stupid, good day.

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questioner

May-23-14 10:01 AM

Barbershop?

Again, ask mike about repeat business.

Thousand, two thousand, ten thousand people who aren't your customer, don't want your product or service, won't come back and scare off current customers, not a plus.

Ask mike about repeat business then write again.

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GrantMingus

May-23-14 9:02 AM

If having thousands of people walk past your store when your business is "barely hanging on" isn't a plus, then you're business will eventually fail because you don't have the proper tools to run it.

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questioner

May-23-14 8:49 AM

Grant, ask at Mikes Penn Grill, who Does have the hoards of customers during cruise from people who Do want what he sells, how much repeat business he gets down the road from it. And when he says virtually nothing, ask him to hand out candy and try that.

And ts, some businesses, like one I mentioned earlier on Broadway, were barely hanging on. Keep their regular customers from coming to them for a week, or even worse, lose a customer permanently who went elsewhere that week, and that can put some businesses much closer to under.

I will tell you I was in a store on Broadway during cruise were a man was shopping but said his wife had told him Not to come in because of Cruise. Especially for those out of town, which most downtown businesses need as Salem itself can't support them, most out of towners not here for the cruise, avoid Salem that week.

Which, if you are honest, you should be able to believe and understand why.

Just not an all round plus.

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ts1227

May-22-14 7:35 PM

You can't park at those businesses anyway because the employees/owners park on State Street... dumbest thing they did during the remodel was rip out parking meters and then decide to not enforce any parking down there.

As Grant said, it's a good weekend for publicity moreso than anything. I still don't see many places taking a bath that weekend. The primary problem is that that no one wants to shop at many of these places to begin with, which is why you promote the crap out of it during this weekend.

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GrantMingus

May-22-14 2:18 PM

Do I think people are going to stop in for a haircut in the middle of Super Nats? No. Do I think you could open your door, clean the place up, invite people in, maybe pass out some candy to kids, stand out out on the sidewalk and hand out fliers with a coupon to the THOUSANDS of people who will walk by your door that day? Yeah, but I guess some of us aren't that proactive. Opportunity doesn't necessarily mean that they're banking money on that given day, it means you can work towards increasing your customer base for the weeks and months that follow. Or you can be lazy, shut down and then whine like a child.

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questioner

May-22-14 2:08 PM

Oops

S u c k it up

And Both sides

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questioner

May-22-14 2:07 PM

Sorry you can't see it's not all pluses for everyone in town.

Noise factor for some residences isn't nice either-- but I suppose you think they should just tell babies and workers needing sleep to just*****it up those days, cuz it's lucrative for the bars.

Sorry you can't acknowledge birth sides.

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questioner

May-22-14 2:03 PM

Plus, it's not like there are cars shown on Broadway anymore like there used to be--it's pretty crappy concession stands with the resulting trash in the street.

Take a look this year. Both the days immediately before the cruise and during, and then tell me if you still see it as a plus for them.

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questioner

May-22-14 2:00 PM

You really think the barbershop or the shipping store or the Christian bookstore would get much business if they were open from 7 pm To 1 in the morning those days? Probably as much as a bar open Sunday morning..

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questioner

May-22-14 1:57 PM

Grant, driving from west to east, yes, you can turn on Broadway from State. Except during Cruise.

And while No people from cruise are there during the day, Broadway is still closed to daily business. And from several days Before the cruise starts as poles are in the middle of the street and state has to inspect them ahead of time.

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GrantMingus

May-22-14 10:16 AM

I'll tell you what, if I had a business on Broadway, I'd be THRILLED to have the opportunity to have that much foot traffic in front of my door for 3 straight days. You can't buy that opportunity. If some don't want to take advantage of it, that's on them.

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GrantMingus

May-22-14 10:09 AM

That's funny, because you can't turn onto Broadway from State Street anyways.

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questioner

May-22-14 10:07 AM

Ok Grant, a person has a box to ship. Driving down State, but can't turn on Broadway. No, they probably don't try to find a spot--how many blocks away?--and walk back with the package. They keep driving down until they get to the UPs store.

Can a person buy a couch from Second Blessings?

Look how many churches have vacation bible school in June. Can they pick up boxes of stuff from lion and lamb that week if they can't park there?

When Christy was in her barbershop, could most of the old guys get to her when the street was blocked?--evidently not, because after the first year of the cruise she closed that week.

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GrantMingus

May-22-14 8:23 AM

That's right, I forgot people can't walk in this town.

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questioner

May-22-14 1:17 AM

Hey, you both, when a street is blocked off and people can't park, a business is negatively affected. And Grant, take a look how early broadway gets blocked--is closed for a week.

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ts1227

May-19-14 9:22 PM

I don't believe any downtown business is negatively impacted. Will some non-bar/restaurant businesses have a netural impact? Absolutely. Niche businesses that close at 4-5PM and aren't open on weekends normally obviously have no difference, and let's be honest, there are likely a handful of places that just get poor business all of the time and use this as an excuse for the fact that no one ever shops there.

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GrantMingus

May-19-14 3:20 PM

If you know a business owner downtown who is negatively impacted that week, and I'm assuming you don't, tell them to contact me and I will offer my services free of charge and help them get people in their establishment.

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GrantMingus

May-19-14 3:16 PM

And you know, if there is any business that is negatively impacted by the sidewalks in front of their store being filled to the brim with people, then they have no one to blame but themselves. It's an incredible opportunity to get people to come through your door.

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GrantMingus

May-19-14 3:11 PM

A weeks worth of a business lost for a 3 day, weekend event huh?

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