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Does building a Holiday Inn on Salem's east end make good business sense?

  1. Yes
  2. No
 
 
 
 
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questioner

Mar-28-14 2:41 AM

I am intrigued--why did some people say no?

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 6:57 AM

Another asinine question by the Salem News.

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ts1227

Mar-28-14 8:32 AM

I'd assume some of the "no's" come from the shale "boom" so far not being as booming as they cracked it up to be, plus once that is over, the reasons to come and stay in Salem are a little sparse right now. Without developing the tourism interests in the area, it's definitely risky in the long term.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 9:29 AM

Will I disagree. According to a news articile a few weeks back all the surrounding communities with rooms are booming,

Salem needs to start somewhere.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 2:54 PM

"I am intrigued--why did some people say no?"

So many answers for that questioner. This is Salem remember?

-Personal agendas that Herron stepped on. -People that can't think outside the box. -People that don't want change. -Bed and Breakfasts owners that wanted a monopoly. -People that don't like Herron period. -Busy bodies. -People that don't know how to incorporate ideas for success from Mr. Herron's plan. -People that don't know how to implement tourism ideas.

It is Salem. What more can be said?

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 3:05 PM

Shale Boom? Forget it. Focus long term.

If that Holiday Inn is up and running by next year and our City doesn't grasp how to bring in outsiders to support that Super Cruise and fill up that Holiday Inn I swear I will go through a ceiling. That is just one idea.

We desperately need a casino. We desperately need family entertainment projects. We desperately need NEW people running these projects and not the same old people that have made a life time career of old ideas. We desperately need 21st century ideas and projects kicking into gear.

We need a nightlife in Salem.

We need to get City Council to stop controlling and start legislating. We need a City Council willing to let the people build their ideas and projects instead of City Council building their ideas and projects. (Watch that comment get smacked).

But again, sigh, this is Salem!

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Beaumont

Mar-28-14 4:36 PM

"We desperately need a casino."

What!! There never has and never will be a shortage of places to gamble in Salem!

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 4:49 PM

That comment should get smacked, because it's completely asinine. I've asked you before and you failed to provide an answer, I imagine the same case here but I'll ask again anyways. Please provide an example of some private development that the city government has stopped or even made difficult.

The casino thing alone is hilarious and borderline certifiably insane.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 4:52 PM

Your willingness to blame the public sector for what the private sector isn't doing is mind boggling.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 4:54 PM

You might call yourself Watchdog but you aren't half as hard on the government as I am. What you continually say about city council is quite simply just BS.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 4:58 PM

And before you lose your head for being called out, as always, let me get one more question in. WHAT THE*****ARE YOU DOING?! Serious question, because I obviously don't know you. But why don't you open a night club? If you're so certain it's financially viable, if the city is just dying for it, then put your money where your mouth is and make some more of it.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 5:05 PM

It's funny because the way you complain about low income housing development, and the council working with those people to bring that here, you're essentially saying that if you were on council, you would only work for development that you like. But since you're not, you come up with the baseless claim that they're stifling development. Do you not hear yourself?

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Beaumont

Mar-28-14 5:22 PM

Well since I don't have a dog in the fight I bet Holiday Inn worked hard and long to see if it made good business sense. The Salem News is just yanking on your chain WatchDog.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 6:02 PM

"Please provide an example of some private development that the city government has stopped or even made difficult."

H E R R O N

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 6:05 PM

"Do you not hear yourself?"

Yes I do.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 6:06 PM

"We need a City Council willing to let the people build their ideas and projects instead of City Council building their ideas and projects. (Watch that comment get smacked)."

Wasn't that clear enough for you Grant?

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 6:08 PM

"The Salem News is just yanking on your chain WatchDog."

I would say the only person that yanked on anyone's chain was yours.

Beaumont, I didn't respond to what the Salem news asked. I responded to what questioner asked. But since you brought that up. Why do you believe that the Salem News only posted that poll question to yank on chains?

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 6:09 PM

"The casino thing alone is hilarious and borderline certifiably insane."

Explain why Grant.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 6:19 PM

How has city council done anything to limit Rodney Herron's development?

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 6:22 PM

Because where do you think the draw will come from for a casino in Salem, Ohio? Mountaineer, Austintown, Cleveland. Why not build another right in the middle? Talk about something that makes no business sense. And how would that have anything to do with council? You think that if a lucrative market can be tapped, these casino magnates aren't going to tap it? Oh that's right, you don't think. Now answer my question with something other than nonsense because city council hasn't limited Rodney Herron's business one single bit.

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WatchDog

Mar-28-14 11:56 PM

Grant, are you under some delusional spell that believes that the Casino Industry hangs a sign on their front doors of their casinos that declare only local patrons of Cleveland, Mountaineer and Austintown can patron these Casinos? Everybody else, nationwide KEEP OUT!

Grant, thank you for proving my theory that Salem folks JUST LIKE YOU can not think outside the box!!!!

Promise me, YOU will never get involved in the tourist industry.

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GrantMingus

Mar-29-14 12:06 AM

Um. No. I'm under the realistic impression that people will go to one of those places and there is not a legitimate demand for a casino right in the middle of them. Did you not understand what I said about a casino magnate tapping a market that was lucrative? I honestly can't even believe that was your response LOL

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ts1227

Mar-29-14 12:39 AM

The casino market is WAY oversaturated as it is (you can now be to approximately 6 within an hour or so). The Youngstown one will be lucky to survive given how late to the party it is.

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questioner

Mar-29-14 11:04 AM

I would like that too.

I wouldn't mind a place that was geared toward one age group on the weekends, jazz another night, etc. Considering it's Salem, wouldn't have to be open every night of the week.

Isn't there a winery type place in North Jackson that has music and gets a good turnout? They have a patio though.

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WatchDog

Mar-29-14 3:03 PM

"Um. No. I'm under the realistic impression that people will go to one of those places and there is not a legitimate demand for a casino right in the middle of them."

Then Grant, YOU know nothing about incorporating advertising and tourism and job growth. And how to drive a competitive edge through marketing.

Grant, do you think Nevada would agree with your theory? Do you think Mississippi would agree with your theory?

Grant, you don't care about these ideas that can benefit Salem, you shoot them down because I wrote them. That is all it about to you.

That whole list of ideas I wrote. You snatch one and went off with some tangent just to discredit those ideas. People like you are destructive.

Salem has so much potential for a revenue tax base it is sickening to see it sitting in a shadow.

Grant, you brought up the low income rentals? How about you genius tell me how low income rentals is going to fill up these bed and breakfasts and the Holiday Inn? Explain

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