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Some polls have the GOP/Tea Party at the lowest level ever recorded. Was the shutdown such a good idea?

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rpmwwe

Oct-24-13 1:15 AM

Everybody tries to predict the outcome of the next election by the public's perceptions of what happens now. From experience, we should all know that America's collective memory only goes back about two weeks at the most. By the time November 2014 rolls around, this will be forgotten about. So, regardless of what one believes about the outcome of the shutdown mess, it will be just another item on the list of forgotten controversies right along with the broken promise that taxes will not be raised on the working class, Fast & Furious, Benghazi, NSA spying, Syria, etc.

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:03 AM

It was a great idea.

That being said, it wasn't a government shutdown, it was a slimdown. No one I know even noticed. I think the only ones who did were Americans who tried to use a park, which Obama shut down in order to cause the most inconvenience possible, just like at the start of the sequester.

The best thing about it is it educated even the LIFs on the tangled mess that is ObamaKare.

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:09 AM

Now, even DemocRats are making mandate delay noises. But wait! "It's the law of the Land!" and cannot be delayed or changed, except for Obama's 19 illegal changes by fiat.

So, they want the same thing the GOP wanted, what the Dems shut down 17% of the government for because they didn't want to give the People the same break as business and their union buddies.

Is such hypocrisy highly amusing!

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:12 AM

"FARGO – The Obama administration asked North Dakota’s largest health insurer not to publicize how many people have signed up for health insurance through a new online exchange, a company official says.

During a Monday forum in Fargo for people interested in signing up for coverage via the exchange, James Nichol of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Dakota told the crowd his company received the request from the federal government earlier Monday. Nichol is a consumer sales manager for the company.

Still, a spokeswoman from Blue Cross Blue Shield says about 14 North Dakotans have signed up for coverage since the federal exchange went live Oct. 1. That brings total statewide enrollment to 20 – less than one a day. "

14 enrolled in 20 days! Hahahahahahahaha!

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:21 AM

"On Wednesday, CNN’s Dana Bash tweeted that all Senate Democrats up for re-election in 2014 will reportedly support a delay of Obamacare’s enrollment deadline.

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), who is up for re-election in 2014, wrote to Obama on Tuesday and asked him to delay the enrollment deadline for the individual mandate. “Given the existing problems with the website, I urge you to consider extending open enrollment beyond the current end date of March 31, 2014,” Shaheen wrote to the president.

Now, according to CNN’s Bash, the Democratic Party is coordinating an effort to support a delay in the individual mandate."

Sounds like quite a few people owe Cruz and Company an apology.

breitbart****/Big-Government/2013/10/23/Report-All-Senate-Democrats-up-for-re-election-in-2014-will-back-delaying-Obamacare-s-enrollment-deadline

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:22 AM

Shucks.

breitbart. com/Big-Government/2013/10/23/Report-All-Senate-Democrats-up-for-re-election-in-2014-will-back-delaying-Obamacare-s-enrollment-deadline

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:23 AM

Gotta love it when the Left has to eat crow.

Hey, DNC, I've got a couple fresh kills for you, harvested from the finest golf course in the county!

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:31 AM

I've got one for you, rpm. Laughing is authorized for this post.

"Bob: "Hey Jim, did you hear about the Obama administration scandal?,

Jim: "You mean the Mexican gun running?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean SEAL Team 6?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Obama saying the avg family would save $2,500 on their premiums?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs by paying for drugs that abort the unborn?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Violating the rights and sanctity of our Churches?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Spending $634 million on a website that doesn't work?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:31 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "Obama calling for an increase in our debt when he lambasted Bush for the very same thing?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Obama having NSA spy on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Saddling our kids with $17 trillion in debt of which they can never get out of and will not have as good a life as we have?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Bailing out Detroit after decades of corrupt Democratic management?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean the State Dept. lying about Benghazi?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean voter fraud?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:32 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Blocking veterans who secured our freedoms from their monuments but giving the green light for Illegals to use Monument Mall?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Denying school kids the ability to tour the White House but still spending lavishly on his parties?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean Obama saying we can keep our insurance and doctors if we wanted to?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The NSA monitoring foreign diplomats?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:33 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "You mean the use of drones in our own country without the benefit of the law?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean the president arming the Muslim Brotherhood?"

Bob: "No the other one:.

Jim: "The IRS targeting conservatives?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The DOJ spying on the press?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean Obama spending $3.7 Trillion on Welfare Over Last 5 Years"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:33 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "Giving SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Millions of Americans losing their health care coverage?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Forcing Americans to include coverage in their insurance policies of items they do not want?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Ordering the release of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants from jails and prisons, and falsely blaming the sequester?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:35 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "Denying Arizona the right to protect its borders?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "Providing weapons to Syrian rebels many of whom apparently are Al Queda"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The president's repeated violation of the law requiring him to submit a

budget no later than the first Monday in February?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The president's unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate's advise-and-consent role?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

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notSocialist

Oct-24-13 6:35 AM

(cont.)

Jim: "Clinton, the IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The President using nearly $1 trillion dollars of stimulus money to fund his cronies?"

Bob: "No, the other one"

Jim: "You mean Fast & Furious?"

Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim:

"I give up! ...Oh wait, I think I got it! You mean that 65 million low-information voters who don't pay taxes and get free stuff from taxpayers and stuck us again with the most pandering, corrupt administration in American history?"

Bob: "THAT'S THE ONE!"

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OhBrother

Oct-24-13 7:20 AM

Saudi Arabia is giving up on the US because of the Syrian mess up leaving them to the mercy of Iran, France, Mexico and now Germany are ready to write us off. What a great leader we have. I think he thought once elected, he could enjoy the perks and let his "yes men" do everything else. How's that working out for us?

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Poollady

Oct-24-13 9:05 AM

What? No Who Cares today? LOL

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questioner

Oct-24-13 11:00 AM

Yep, Brother, that's the question, "How's that working out for you?"

Only on those self-help shows, the people asked usually acknowledge, "Not so good".

They don't put the people with denial issues on TV (obvious exception in the white House noted) since you can't make suggestions to them and so there is no hope of change.

NotSocialist had a laundry list of subjects we could ask, "How's that working out for you?"

Unfortunately, when you have soooo many issues, too many people want to just pull the covers over their heads rather than deal with the questions.

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Kozy62

Oct-24-13 11:11 AM

Timing is everything when it comes to polls. As people see how what the Tea Party was asking for and how bad Obamacare is, it just might change.

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ladybug

Oct-24-13 11:37 AM

Kind of reminds me of the Bush era.

Oh that's right we don't talk about those years.

Just one question Kozy ?

Whats your solution for fixing healthcare in the USA

We now have close to 50 + million uninsured. Mind telling who pays their bills ??

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ladybug

Oct-24-13 11:41 AM

The shut down just cost an estimated 24 billion .

Just peanuts right ? Like it or not Obamacare is here to stay right now and to beat the country into the ground when theres some real issues going unanswered.

Before you start .The budget issue should have been resolved in April since there was 2 bills and called for a conference then.

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ladybug

Oct-24-13 11:42 AM

And the repubs, and tea party chose the game.

If they don't like the rules .Think the next time !!

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ladybug

Oct-24-13 11:45 AM

An of course election fraud. Kind of reminds me of Florida.

When Gore won the popular vote and dear George won the electorial vote

But Gore was man enough to concede rather than drag the country threw months of legal action.

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rpmwwe

Oct-24-13 11:47 AM

notSocialist, you actually made me more aware of my own point. There were several items listed that I completely forgot about.

Rhetorical Question: How many of them occurred BEFORE re-election but were not an issue DURING re-election?

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ladybug

Oct-24-13 11:54 AM

The republicans came back from their 6 week recess with the very intent of shutting the government down or forcing Obama on the ACA .

Which wasn't going to happen

And just because it had no direct impact oh you Ns didn't mean it didn't impact others somewhere,

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rpmwwe

Oct-24-13 12:06 PM

"We now have close to 50 + million uninsured. Mind telling who pays their bills ??"

Don't believe for a minute that the welfare looters are going to even try to sit down in front of a computer and figure out how to sign up for Obamakare, especially when they would have to pay out of pocket. Nope...for them, nothing will change. If they can keep getting it for free, they will. We, the taxpayers, will continue to pay that one.

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