Everybody tries to predict the outcome of the next election by the public's perceptions of what happens now. From experience, we should all know that America's collective memory only goes back about two weeks at the most. By the time November 2014 rolls around, this will be forgotten about. So, regardless of what one believes about the outcome of the shutdown mess, it will be just another item on the list of forgotten controversies right along with the broken promise that taxes will not be raised on the working class, Fast & Furious, Benghazi, NSA spying, Syria, etc.
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Saudi Arabia is giving up on the US because of the Syrian mess up leaving them to the mercy of Iran, France, Mexico and now Germany are ready to write us off. What a great leader we have. I think he thought once elected, he could enjoy the perks and let his "yes men" do everything else. How's that working out for us?
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What? No Who Cares today? LOL
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Yep, Brother, that's the question, "How's that working out for you?"
Only on those self-help shows, the people asked usually acknowledge, "Not so good".
They don't put the people with denial issues on TV (obvious exception in the white House noted) since you can't make suggestions to them and so there is no hope of change.
NotSocialist had a laundry list of subjects we could ask, "How's that working out for you?"
Unfortunately, when you have soooo many issues, too many people want to just pull the covers over their heads rather than deal with the questions.
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Timing is everything when it comes to polls. As people see how what the Tea Party was asking for and how bad Obamacare is, it just might change.
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Kind of reminds me of the Bush era.
Oh that's right we don't talk about those years.
Just one question Kozy ?
Whats your solution for fixing healthcare in the USA
We now have close to 50 + million uninsured. Mind telling who pays their bills ??
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The shut down just cost an estimated 24 billion .
Just peanuts right ? Like it or not Obamacare is here to stay right now and to beat the country into the ground when theres some real issues going unanswered.
Before you start .The budget issue should have been resolved in April since there was 2 bills and called for a conference then.
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And the repubs, and tea party chose the game.
If they don't like the rules .Think the next time !!
An of course election fraud. Kind of reminds me of Florida.
When Gore won the popular vote and dear George won the electorial vote
But Gore was man enough to concede rather than drag the country threw months of legal action.
notSocialist, you actually made me more aware of my own point. There were several items listed that I completely forgot about.
Rhetorical Question: How many of them occurred BEFORE re-election but were not an issue DURING re-election?
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The republicans came back from their 6 week recess with the very intent of shutting the government down or forcing Obama on the ACA .
Which wasn't going to happen
And just because it had no direct impact oh you Ns didn't mean it didn't impact others somewhere,
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"We now have close to 50 + million uninsured. Mind telling who pays their bills ??"
Don't believe for a minute that the welfare looters are going to even try to sit down in front of a computer and figure out how to sign up for Obamakare, especially when they would have to pay out of pocket. Nope...for them, nothing will change. If they can keep getting it for free, they will. We, the taxpayers, will continue to pay that one.
"When Gore won the popular vote and dear George won the electorial vote"
Again, modern elections are about choosing the lesser of two evils. I'm not one to put Bush up on a pedestal but that election shouldn't have even been close. Had Gore taken office, we would most likely now be paying a pollution tax (passed on to us by the manufacturer / service provider) on everything imaginable.
"The shut down just cost an estimated 24 billion"
The shut down shouldn't have cost anything. It should have saved money. If it cost more money than it saved, then that is just gross incompetence of administration.
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Well whats the answer ?
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It cost 24 billion economically ..
Go ask the people who quoted it.
Since your only answer is to cry Obama .
Every course causes a recourse and the nerds in the republican party new it.
They where gambling with our lives.
But why should they care. Getting re-elected is their real concern
Like everyone you complai about the people living off the gov.
Yet I see no-one in Washington addressing the issue.
Can't get people off the roles as long as you keep repling good jobs with wel-fare jobs
Of course unless your one of those that can live on $ 8 to 10/hr
That election shouldn't have close. Right we got what we asked for. 2 wars,tax cuts and a drug plan all with no off sets to the budget ' A recession ,a collapsing housing industry ,a failing banking system and the lose of 7 million jobs.
Wal-Mart one of the nations biggest empl
Wal-Mart .One of the nations biggest employer. Almost 85% of them qualify for gov. assistance.
"It cost 24 billion economically .. "
Its not the government's responsibility to be a business partner or customer to the private sector. If a private company goes under because they lost their one and only client, the U.S. government, then that is the company's fault for becoming dependant on a single source of revenue. (aka: Don't put all of your eggs in one basket)
"Can't get people off the roles as long as you keep repling good jobs with wel-fare jobs"
We are way beyond that. We have millions of generational welfare recipients that have never had a job and never will. They don't even know of anyone in the families that have ever had a job. They WILL NOT WORK no matter the pay. The only skill they can pass on to their children is how to reap a living from the system.
Yes, I'm going to complain about it and I'll never stop unless its fixed...Its a HUGE problem bleeding our country dry!
"Right we got what we asked for. 2 wars,tax cuts and a drug plan all with no off sets to the budget ' A recession ,a collapsing housing industry ,a failing banking system and the lose of 7 million jobs."
All that was coming with or without Bush. The causes of those problems were festering long before he took office. Would you want to pay a 15% to 20% mark up on everything you buy in addition with those problems so Gore's enviro-cronies could line their pockets?
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We lost 24 billion over the 16 days, Now if you need further explanation you will have to go online and find out the details,
That's what they posted on the net works.
Complain all you want.Because it won't be fixed as long as we keep adding to it !
Who are you BS ing ?
When GB took office we had a balanced budget 3 yrs in a row, The debt was scheduled to be paid off in 2005.
These same people cry no new spending with out off sets..
Tax brakes $100 billion/yr. Drug plan $50 billion/yr. The wars have cost over $3 trillion ,with and estimated total cost of $ trillion before it said and done,
Because someone was sleeping in the adm. The housing,banking and wall street collaosed.
Estimated cost to the bation over all 16 trillion.
Plus the loss of over 7 million jobs and factory closing.
The country was moving in the rioght direction under Clinton because the 2 parties was working to gether
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