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Is Salem becoming a more dangerous town to live in?

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reasonableman

Sep-08-13 1:48 PM

People dont realize it because we like to keep it hush hush as much as possible. The ****** problem is out of control and half of the town is clueless about it. The local media is just like the national. They tell the people what they want you to care about and nobody questions it.

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reasonableman

Sep-08-13 1:49 PM

Perfect example of censorship is the above word that was deleted

H E R O I N!

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WatchDog

Sep-08-13 2:33 PM

Dear Walmart,

Would you please pave your parking lot, put up a few hanging flowers baskets, grab a paint brush and slap a fresh coat of paint on your building. We have no regulations to your paint scheme, so that paint scheme is your option. Hot pink or a silly little fish mural would be appreciated however.

We have spent endless hours coming up with a "profitable plan" to improve the quality of life of Salem, it's revenues and deter CRIME.

This should discourage the senseless crime incident at your store. The murderer would seen how beautiful your store was and the shock and awe of it would have encouraged him to avoid the parking lot and shop inside your store instead.

Thank you,

Sincerely,

City Council and Scott Cahill

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ladybug

Sep-08-13 2:54 PM

I really don't think the 2 have anything in common,

This can happen anywhere any time

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OSU600

Sep-08-13 2:55 PM

While the world in general is a more dangerous place, it should be noted that the 2 recent shootings were not random but done by people who knew the victim in a relationship gone bad. These shootings could have happened anywhere between these 2 people. Yes, Salem has a drug and crime problem, but in these cases it's more a thing of choosing who you associate with rather than living in Salem.

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WatchDog

Sep-08-13 2:58 PM

reasonableman...I call...BULLS**T.

People of Salem don't realize it? They don't want to realize it because they are in denial. This is little old down to earth Salem that they believe has an imaginary dome surrounding it to protect us from the REAL WORLD. They are called "complacent people". Not their problem let somebody else fix it and they go back to their everyday life of being holed up inside their homes.

I will beg to differ with you on this issue. The Salem News is NOTHING like the National news media pukes. If you need a news reporter to oust you a full blown news report on every crime incident occurring in Salem, you are seriously living in denial. Why don't you try this one..."POLICE AND NEWS REPORTS".

Read them. Familiarize yourself with them. Learn who is moving into this city and your own neighborhood.

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OSU600

Sep-08-13 3:00 PM

Correction, There was not two shootings, but the one victim was strangled. Regardless, two senseless crimes.

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WatchDog

Sep-08-13 3:10 PM

Ladybug it's not the Walmart incident that is dangerous. The dangers are the contributing factors increasing these types of crimes.

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Ethomas38

Sep-08-13 3:46 PM

Crime in Salem??? No.. NEVER!!! Not Salem!! Salem has had crime and drugs for over 3 decades and yet Salem portrays itself as a wholesome hometown.

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ladybug

Sep-08-13 3:53 PM

Maybe you'd like to trade places with Cleveland,Detroit,Chicago,

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ladybug

Sep-08-13 3:56 PM

You people talk about drugs ion Salem like it only exists in a certain bracket,

This in owned by the rich,the poor, the influential and the nobody,

As long as there is a demand ,there will be a suplly

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ladybug

Sep-08-13 3:57 PM

Salem compared to many areas is still a quite ,peaceful,safe town

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GrantMingus

Sep-08-13 4:16 PM

Ladybug is right. To say that we have an "out of control" crime problem and that people are unaware of it is ridiculous. Seems the same as its always been to me, the difference is more people ARE aware of some of the things going on because media is accessible to more people via the internet.

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EATTHERICH

Sep-08-13 5:17 PM

watchdog,love your letter.ethomas your comments should have read the last 4 decades your right.

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GrantMingus

Sep-09-13 12:09 AM

Advocating for dead innocents again?

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rpmwwe

Sep-09-13 2:47 AM

Those that are concerned that Salem has taken a turn for the worse in regard to crime and safety over the years should think about this. If an incident occurred like the one at Walmart and there was not a major uproar and overwhelming concern, then it would be safe to say the town has turned for the worse. There are a lot of cities in which something like this could happen and it wouldn't get much attention.

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concerned

Sep-09-13 8:12 AM

No rpmwwe the sign that these things are happening more frequently is the sign that Salem is becoming a more dangerous town. I have lived in this area all my life and we have had more murders in the last 5 years in and around Salem than we did in the 50 years prior combined.And murder is not the only crime being committed. I think I could say most of the crimes in town now involve people committing the crimes that are usually involved in drugs in one way or another. That is our problem, people hopped up on drugs or having a mind that has been fried by them and their thinking is messed up. Drugs deteriorate the moral fabric of a society. This is Salem's problem this is what needs to get fixed. How to do that I don't know for sure. As useful as a drug dog may be I don't think that in and of it's self will correct the problem. It will take a change of heart by those involved to not let drugs ruin their lives and the lives of others.

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JUSTWATCHING

Sep-09-13 10:29 AM

No, I can still walk the streets after dark with my dogs and do not feel threatened. I lived in Alliance for several years, and even in the "good" part of town I wouldn't do that. What happened at Wal-mart is awful. It's not a reflection on our city. If that girl would have worked at the Austintown Wal-mart it would have happened there. Were drugs involved? you have to assume yes and/or a mental incapacity. Both seem to be taking over society today. The rest of us need to be aware of our surroundings and pray people make better decisions and make the best for ourselves. This didn't have to do with Salem, it had to do with a man who saw no other direction to turn unfortunately. Thank God that he didn't go in the store on a rampage.

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questioner

Sep-09-13 10:37 AM

I think the local newspapers and police are doing a much better job of acknowledging what is going on. 19 years ago, what would now be called a gang was a "youth club". 18 years ago there were break-ins and theft downtown--several people were told it had to be done by people just passing through town. (And initially, same with a sexual assault at a quick shop). 17 years ago a small baggie with white powder was found in alley behind a church--they were told not to worry, it couldn't be drugs. There were illegal sales of alcohol at another quick shop totally written off by Salem police ("each store has their own policy") that thankfully a Perry Township cop overheard and successfully followed up on.

I don't see that happening so much any more. You can't fix problems until you acknowledge them. That said, is there more violence, more drugs?--for sure. Hopefully the depth of the problem is acknowledged, not just that there is one.

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WatchDog

Sep-09-13 10:56 AM

I agree concerned. The denial is that we don't have "out of control crime" and we do. Drugs are out of control. The red flags are popping up everywhere and people choose to ignore them. Because the change is gradual but it is progressing. The biggest problem is that people have the mindset that if there isn't a violent murder every night in Salem then we have no crime. The contributing factors are what is developing the crime and that is what is growing. The neighborhoods in Salem are starting to show it. Downtown is experiencing it. Half of the crime occurring in Salem goes unreported or it's undetected we don't have a police department with manpower. Our boys are dealing with repeat offenders. Court Dockets, the county jail numbers are real. Crime comes in different shapes and forms. That is what people don't accept. We have people who live in Salem that do crime outside the city and outside the county that the public doesn't even hear about.

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WatchDog

Sep-09-13 1:05 PM

questioner excellent post.

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qcityfan

Sep-09-13 1:51 PM

I'll say it for the 100th time, our resources are not being allocated to our priorities. Our priorities should be getting rid of the criminal element that is ruining our town, but the allocation of our resources would lead you to believe that we have a fire problem. For the love of God we have to find a way to form a fire district and save $600,000 per year, and re-allocate those funds to getting rid of the drugs and related criminal elements. If we don't do it, there won't be a town left worth saving from fire.

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WatchDog

Sep-09-13 3:17 PM

"No, I can still walk the streets after dark with my dogs and do not feel threatened."

Not to disrespect your opinion on this just that one part made me ask this. Was that young girl at Walmart probably in that same thinking before her death. Just like the employees of Walmart who thought they had a safe work environment. I feel for them. They had their worlds turned upside down last night. They are devastated by this. Just like our boys at the police department. This has to be hard on them. They had to go out there and pick up pieces. Can only imagine the thoughts going through their heads. The what if's haunt them.

I am sticking to my guns, no pun intended. We need to invest in that PD and balance the crime growing before it to late. I rather have those odds favored for us then the against us with the criminals and contributing factors that are growing and weakening those odds.

One step ahead is better than two steps backwards. Just my opinion.

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WatchDog

Sep-09-13 3:19 PM

"I'll say it for the 100th time"

qcityfan, I agree with you for the 100th time! <grin>

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GrantMingus

Sep-09-13 5:15 PM

Apparently there is a pun intended there Watchdog, you're sticking to someone else's guns--namely a Salem police officer.

Let me counter what you said about the girl at Walmart probably feeling that same way before she was shot...sounds A LOT like Obama after Newtown. The REALITY was 99.9% of kids could go to school the next day without any threat at all. This was a domestic incident. You're painting it as gang land violence. And the worst part is you've continually talked about letting the investigation play out, but out of the other side of your mouth you've been connecting this to drugs and talking about how they're ruining our community and citing this. With no knowledge of whether or not drugs played a role. Your inconsistency on everything and the apparent rules that you hold everyone to, except yourself of course, are ridiculous.

I'm sorry, I understand it's too personal to call you on your inconsistency...

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