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Is Salem becoming a more dangerous town to live in?

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concerned

Sep-12-13 9:57 AM

lissao24 I am happy to live in Salem too and I am also glad that things are not any worse than they already are. But don't bury you head in the sand. The increase in domestic violence is just a symptom of the wickedness that is brewing. I am willing to guess Cleveland and Youngstown probably started out the same way. It is a slippery slope that if allowed to escalate it will not be able to be stopped. If we wait till things get as bad as some other cities to take action it is going to be too late.

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GrantMingus

Sep-12-13 9:17 AM

Forget it, this all wastes far too much of our time.

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PattiHannah

Sep-12-13 1:53 AM

Mr. Mingus if you feel offended because I may have said something or used something from another persons comment to help clarify another person's comment. It doesn't mean I am trying to start something with you. I'll use my example that you threw at watch dog.

"Apparently there is a pun intended there Watchdog, you're sticking to someone else's guns--namely a Salem police officer."

You never explained that when I asked you about it. So why are we subjected to your wrath if we don't respond with back with something you don't deem logical or acceptable to you?

I don't think any of us are here to compete with you in debates. At least I know I am not. Don't you think you are being a bit unreasonable in your judgement to others?

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PattiHannah

Sep-12-13 1:09 AM

"Why didn't you answer my questions about legal marijuana after you told me I was out of my league on one of the polls?"

Mr. Mingus, wow, ok, this one is a curve ball thrown at me here but what questions? I don't understand. You and I never had any conversation on that subject. You refused to talk to me. If I recall you were for some unknown reason quickly agitated and you made a few remarks and called me a nut job or something to that affect. The only thing I remember is offering for you to call me if you ever calmed down. I'll admit I haven't gone back through any of the other poll comments. But why would you be asking me questions about legal marijuana? I NEVER made any comments on that subject for you to be calling me out on it for answers.

Just out of curiosity. Why are you continually under this assumption that any of us owe you an explanation for our comments.

I am starting to feel now what Watchdog is feeling and trying to understand. Confusion.

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Lissa024

Sep-11-13 9:36 PM

Absolutely NOT...Salem is a wonderful town to live in...We have been here for 37 yrs, raised our children and now our grandchildren...The violence in Salem lately has been domesticated, not random shootings...When I read this statement and seen the outcome I was somewhat upset..This is not Cleveland or Youngstown...Proud to live in Salem...

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GrantMingus

Sep-11-13 3:00 PM

Then why do you go crazy every time I ask you to explain yourself? If you don't care, then don't respond. You keep it going. You come back on and counter my counter point with the same basic, simple statement you made the begin with. Don't argue your point if you can't actually argue your point.

And your hypocrisy, now added to your inconsistency and your unaccountability is really painting a pretty bad picture for you. You just continue to prove what I say about you.

But I am done, all I try to do anyways is discuss the issues, argue my point, debate the issues with others here. You are the one who throws the wrench in that, and trust me, if you want to play that game with me I'll play. But I don't have much interest in your small minded pettiness and I haven't from the beginning. Let's see if you can stick to the topic at hand from now on...I know I can.

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WatchDog

Sep-11-13 3:00 PM

Oh and Grant, I am about to head out of town for a few days. Do I have your permission?

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WatchDog

Sep-11-13 2:11 PM

ONCE AGAIN here you go trying to drag me through the mud for asking her to explain herself...

Grant, I don't have to explain myself...my comment was self-explanatory. If it wasn't good enough for you...too sad, too bad!

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WatchDog

Sep-11-13 2:08 PM

The only person that turns anything into an argument is YOU. You can't write a comment without insulting someone. Nobody on here can write a comment without you turning into an argument. Even when people have the opinion you do...you turn it into an argument. Why?

This is not a court room Grant. We are not your witnesses to be cross exaimed. Good God CHILL OUT.

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WatchDog

Sep-11-13 2:02 PM

Grant your attitude is off the chart of ridiculous! Does common sense elude you?

Just because you camp out on the site and pop some bold and arrogant question at somebody and they don't respond to it, did it ever occur in your dense thinking that they may NOT HAVE SEEN IT? Or they just chose to ignore your sarcasm? What the*****is wrong you? What are we suppose to do come in here every 10 seconds to make sure that Grant the Man didn't hit somebody with something and then have to face the your wrath? You are discouraging everyone on here.

Seriously, do you think anybody is impressed?

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GrantMingus

Sep-11-13 1:25 PM

I most definitely answered your questions, with the truth, that I have no idea what you're talking about.

Why didn't you answer my questions about legal marijuana after you told me I was out of my league on one of the polls? Do you really want to play this game? I don't demand that Watchdog answer my questions, I ask her to explain herself when she wants to be argumentative with a statement. I fail to see how that is a problem. It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another thing completely to have an opinion and argue it with everyone who has a different opinion but never be able to explain your stance and back it up with logic, rational thought and/or facts. That's what she does. I don't DEMAND that she answers my questions. I attempt to have a real debate over the issue, instead of a repetitive screaming match. Because unlike some of you apparently, I can and will back up anything I say or I won't say it.

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GrantMingus

Sep-11-13 1:22 PM

LOL because I dislike her?! I don't even know her!

She said it was a good crime..it ended well. If you don't think that's a horrible way to get her point across, which was either what I said it was or what concerned said it was, then I guess by your standard I could argue that you're only defending her because you like her. It's ridiculous to say it was a good crime when there is an innocent woman dead. If she meant what I said she meant, I agree. If she meant what concerned said she meant, then I also agree. But she SAID it was a good crime. I didn't word it that way, she did and even prefaced it by saying it would sound sick.

ONCE AGAIN here you go trying to drag me through the mud for asking her to explain herself...

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PattiHannah

Sep-11-13 3:00 AM

Mr. Mingus, I asked you several questions that you chose to ignore or not answer. Why is right for you but wrong for her?

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PattiHannah

Sep-11-13 12:27 AM

concerned I agree with your post. I believe this did end well. Our police officer's are not spending endless hours upon hours searching for a suspect that committed a homicide. Sad tragedy but it could have been so much worse and Watchdog gave excellent scenario's that we all should be grateful didn't result. I would have wrote that I would have been a bit bolder and harsher. He is dead and that he didn't live after taking her life and pleading on our justice system for sympathy for his actions.

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PattiHannah

Sep-11-13 12:09 AM

"No, she just did a horrible job of making her point."

No she didn't Mr. Mingus. The only reason you perceived it that way was because you dislike her. It is common nature in any person. That somebody with intent to discredit or dislikes something or someone, they tend to seek out or lean towards the negative side in that attempt to pull it out in that perception. That was why you specifically chose and only focused on that line to manipulate with your ill feelings towards her.

You are at a point where nothing she says or does will be correct or right to you. Because you are searching for those imperfections. That is really sad.

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concerned

Sep-10-13 11:37 PM

"But to say this was a good crime and it ended well is a horrible way of saying "thank God he didn't go inside and shoot a bunch of other people" I could be wrong Grant but I don't think that is what watchdog meant. I took it that the good part was that we did not have to waste a bunch of taxpayer money on a trial and he maybe get off on mental issues or life in prison at taxpayers expense. I really think she meant that justice has been served by a self-inflicted death penalty by the guilty party. At least that is what I got out of what she said.

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GrantMingus

Sep-10-13 9:11 PM

No, she just did a horrible job of making her point. I got it. And I agree with the sentiment of the people at Walmart. But to say this was a good crime and it ended well is a horrible way of saying "thank God he didn't go inside and shoot a bunch of other people".

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outlaw

Sep-10-13 8:56 PM

"At least you know you're sick."

dang man you just had to do it. anything for you entertainment purpose rignt grant, news flash my wive's brother works at walmart and they are saying the same thing watchdog says. that could have been a terrible crime if he went to the inside of the store. or turned on the ones in the car. all of them are in shock and it was hard on them and they are grateful they did not die. everybody got dog's point but you

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GrantMingus

Sep-10-13 2:09 PM

Am I missing something? Where did I not support the police officers?

Also, Watchdog, you never answered my question from earlier--are you advocating for dead innocents again? Because you definitely said this:

"As sick as this will sound...this was a good crime. It ended well."

At least you know you're sick.

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WatchDog

Sep-10-13 12:48 PM

"We're swamped," (Police Chief) Panezott said. "Dave can't keep up - he can only do so much. The city is changing and our crime pattern is changing."

Shame isn't it? That it would be considered a joke for any of us to agree with him or any our officer's on this?

Regardless, I will continue to stick to my guns on this and support our boys!

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questioner

Sep-10-13 11:51 AM

More dangerous? Definitely more crime, worse crime.

"We're swamped," (Police Chief) Panezott said. "Dave can't keep up - he can only do so much. The city is changing and our crime pattern is changing."

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GrantMingus

Sep-10-13 10:30 AM

I still have no clue what you're talking about.

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PattiHannah

Sep-09-13 11:57 PM

"What are you talking about?"

Anything I want, that's the beauty of it! Now do you want to share with us why you thought it was joke for Watchdog or myself for that matter to agree with an opinion of a police officer simply because you knew it came from a police officer?

You specifically pointed that out for a reason did you not?

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GrantMingus

Sep-09-13 9:01 PM

What are you talking about?

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PattiHannah

Sep-09-13 8:40 PM

"Apparently there is a pun intended there Watchdog, you're sticking to someone else's guns--namely a Salem police officer."

Mr. Mingus, did your true colors just come shining through with your obvious contempt for that police officer? Would you like to share with us why?

If agreeing with an officer's opinion upsets you, then I about to infuriate you even further. I am backing that officer 100%. Regardless of whose opinion it may or may not agree with. When it comes to crime, their opinions and expertise will outweigh your arguments any time.

"You're painting it as gang land violence."

No Mr. Mingus that would be how you are trying to shift it to a clever manipulation of Watchdogs comment for simply nothing more than petty behavioral issue you carry forward towards a woman concerned about her community. She was acting on how people react to crime and their emotion. She is 100% correct. Crime is not predictable.

Public safety is not a laughing matter.

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