So, when you have a paradox situation, you must make an attempt to choose the lesser of the two evils. Kind of like being given a choice between Obama or McCain for president. In the case of Syria, I say the lesser evil is to stay out. There are more things that can go more horribly wrong if we get involved.
But ponder this...
Even if we go along with whatever the rest of the world wants us to do or not do in Syria, we are still screwed. The mere fact that our great leadership made a global spectacle of their intentions has p'ed off millions, if not billions, of people around the world. We may be dealing with the fallout of that debacle for decades to come even if we don't go anywhere near Syria.
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I don't think there is a solution in Syria. Its a classic catch twenty-two paradox. Obviously, if the Assad regime ordered a gas attack on civilians, then that should be addressed, but addressing it means aiding our enemies which, according to Kerry himself, comprises about 15% to 25% of the rebel forces. Additionally, concerned made a very good point. Assuming our military can locate the WMDs, what will assure a sudden and total destruction of them. I can very easily see a lot of those canisters not incinerated upon the strike just laying there, damaged, ruptured, and leaking gas.
I'm not Catholic but...
After 10 days of debate in Europe and America, the wisest words on a path forward have come from the Pope. Francis wrote this week to Vladimir Putin, as the host of the G-20. He*******"the senseless massacre" unfolding in Syria and pleaded with the leaders gathered in St. Petersburg not to "remain indifferent"—remain—to the "dramatic situation." He asked the governments of the world "to do everything possible to assure humanitarian assistance" within and without Syria's borders.
But, he said, a "military solution" is a "futile pursuit."
And he is right. The only strong response is not a military response.
But, what is?
Just like I said before, how many do you think are shareholders in Raytheon and Lockheed Martin? But what do I know, I'm just a conceited, know it all AH with an ego and attitude problem :)
Well, well, well...
www . wired . com/ threatlevel/2013/09/syria-war-authorization-money/
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Taking away their chemical weapons are not going to change their hearts. They will still hate each other and will use what ever they have at their disposal to kill each other with. Just curious, I would like to ask those that think we should go over and blow those chemical weapons up: I wonder how many people will be affected when we put these chemicals into the atmosphere by blowing them up?
Just say NO, I don't care if the kill each other!
Well Matt, let me try to explain...
You see, it was not enough to have the Secretary of State & Defense blunder through answering questions where there may not be clear answers or the Secretary of State telling the world things that were not true or even our President drawing red lines and then saying it wasn't his red line...you see Mr. Obama needs someone to blame.
Associated Press’ Matt Lee was incredulous over Obama’s decision to ask for congressional ok to attack Syria. Lee asked spokeswoman Jen Psaki if there was a “group spine-removal procedure at the WH over the weekend.”
Lee appeared baffled by Kerry’s use of the word “courageous” to describe Obama’s actions. “I don’t understand why he is so full-throatedly in favor of this,” Lee said. “He over the weekend said Obama was acting courageously by taking this to Congress, & I don’t understand what is courageous about asking permission for something that you say you don’t need to do.”
Psaki attempted to explain Kerry’s comments, but only got a handful of words out before Lee interrupted her. “Was there some, like, group spine-removal procedure at the WH over the weekend?” “I don’t understand. How is this courageous?”
OBAMA FACES DEFEAT IN HOUSE...
INTERNATIONAL OPPOSITION BUILDS...
So, what happens after Obama loses the vote and much or most from his own party? What if he orders bombings anyway? Who does he blame? What about the scandals? What bout Egypt? What about our debt...the budget...funding the government...the Obama sequester?
"We have to launch the missiles to see what is in it."
A+ for notSocialist!
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And they laughed at Palin. Isn't it amazing almost everything that woman predicted about Obama has happened. She may not have been the perfect choice to run for V.P. but by God her voice had should have never been silenced.
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Whatcha talkin bout Willis? LOL
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"THE WHOLE THING?"
I thought I was the only one that caught that!
"On a side note, I have noticed that every time the media posts a photo of Kerry he always seems to have a puzzled look on his face."
rpmwwe are you referring to the Secretary of State that suddenly believes he is a "War General"? He must not have consulted with Jane Fonda yet?
...and, where's all that proof Obama and Kerry have? We still haven't seen anything!"
Other than the a photo of Sen. Kerry and his wife and Assad and his wife having a comfy intimate dinner together?
Starting to wonder if this isn't a bad ketchup deal gone bad!
Sorry couldn't resist that one.
Questioner says to Grant, "Be passionate, but don't make a wall between "us" (you) and "them" (the rest of us)."
That is what Grant fails to recognize. When Government keeps us...DIVIDED. Government thrives on it. When Grant, himself, see the people as the enemy too...his admirable attempt to change the status quo to "whatever" his unknown movement and his army is about he beats himself. Unless we all know what it is he wants to change, he may be surprised, to learn that even us in the older generation and may shock him to learn we may agree with him. I have tried repeatedly to get him to tell us and I have opened that door several times for him and... nothing. His attitude swallows him and spits him out.
Nice point questioner. I applaud you.
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Not sure what will constitute "proof" but this is from Reuters News yesterday:
Participants at a confidential meeting of German lawmakers on Monday said the head of the BND foreign intelligence agency told them it had intercepted a phone call believed to be between a high-ranking member of the Lebanese Shi'ite militant group and the Iranian Embassy in Damascus.
"The BND referred to a phone call they had heard between a Hezbollah official and the Iranian embassy in which he spoke about Assad having ordered the attack," one of the participants told Reuters.
Well, rpm...I believe they gave the proof to Pelosi to hold until some time after the vote.
I can not believe I am saying this, but one advantage to keeping Assad in power: I'd rather have chemical weapons in Assad's hands than in the rebel's hands. Maybe "only" 25% are al-Qaida, etc, but how much of the leadership, the organizers, the strategists are al-Qaida? My guess is the % there is a lot higher.
I wish I could say bomb the storage areas and who cares about the "collateral" damage, but as a Christian I cannot. However, I would make a good guess that if the rebels now win, we will see those weapons used against us. (And so, I Really wish I could say, just bomb the storage sites, but....)
On a side note, I have noticed that every time the media posts a photo of Kerry he always seems to have a puzzled look on his face. I thought that was odd since the media is in Obama's back pocket, but then I figured it out. Its not that the media is intentionally posting unflattering photos of Kerry. Its just that he always has that look on his face!
...and, where's all that proof Obama and Kerry have? We still haven't seen anything!
From a Huffpost article:
In testimony Wednesday, Kerry said that he didn't agree that "a majority (of the opposition) are al- Qaida and the bad guys." Extremists amount to 15 to 25 percent of the opposition, he said, including al-Nusra and many other groups that are "fighting each other, even now." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15% to 25% may not be a majority, but it certainly is way too much. The only common thread between all these groups is their opposition to Assad. What will happen when Assad is gone?
Well, 51.1% of the American voters have spoken, and we are all now getting what they deserve.
From his widely-mocked warnings about a hostile Russia, to his adamant opposition to the increasingly unpopular implementation of Obamacare, the ex-candidate’s canon of campaign rhetoric now offers cause for vindication — and remorse — to Romney’s friends, supporters, and former advisers.
“I think about the campaign every single day, and what a shame it is who we have in the White House,” said Spencer Zwick, who worked as Romney’s finance director and is a close friend to his family. “I look at things happening and I say, you know what? Mitt was actually right when he talked about Russia, and he was actually right when he talked about how hard it was going to be to implement Obamacare, and he was actually right when he talked about the economy. I think there are a lot of everyday Americans who are now feeling the effects of what [Romney] said was going to happen, unfortunately.”
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