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Would our founding fathers be pleased with the current state of the United States?

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Beaumont

Jul-06-13 1:30 AM

No, They would want to know who freed there Slaves?

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notSocialist

Jul-06-13 5:21 AM

You're repugnant, Bleaumont.

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Whizkid

Jul-06-13 8:07 AM

Thomas Jefferson has already turned over in his grave and Samuel Adams has requested asylum somewhere that is not a socialist state. They never intended that we become wards of the government. They always cautioned us to make the government work FOR us, not the way it is now with the government controlling every aspect of enterprise and controlling ever increasing aspects of our private lives.

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EATTHERICH

Jul-06-13 8:21 AM

best government money can buy.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 10:30 AM

Last week, A.J. Marin was arrested in Harrisburg, Pa., for writing in chalk on the sidewalk. Marin was participating in a health care demonstration outside Gov. Tom Corbett’s residence when he wrote, “Governor Corbett has health insurance, we should too.” Authorities charged Marin with writing “a derogatory remark about the governor on the sidewalk.” The horror.

This follows the case of Jeff Olson, who chalked messages such as “Stop big banks” outside branches of Bank of America last year. Law professor Jonathan Turley reports that prosecutors brought 13 vandalism charges against him. Moreover, the judge in the case recently prohibited Olson’s attorney from “mentioning the First Amendment, free speech,” or anything like them during the trial.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 10:32 AM

In May, a Texas woman was arrested for asking to see a warrant for the arrest of her 11-year-old son. “She spent the night in jail while her son was left at home,” reports Fox34 News. The son never was arrested. Also in Texas, Justin Carter has spent months in jail — and faces eight years more — for making an admittedly atrocious joke about shooting up a school in an online chat. Though he was plainly kidding, authorities charged him with making a terrorist threat.

Federal prosecutors also recently used an anti-terrorism measure to seize almost $70,000 from the owners of a Maryland dairy. Randy and Karen Sowers had made several bank deposits of just under $10,000 to avoid the headache of filing federal reports required for sums over that amount. The feds charged them with unlawful “structuring.” Last week, they settled the case. Authorities kept half their money to teach them a lesson.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 10:40 AM

And, rising beyond the not so funny joke...would the Founding Fathers be happy with these true life situations? Are we so polarized that we are just allowing our freedoms and the specialness of this country to be taken away. Maybe it's time to stop telling joke, join together and demand fewer laws and according to the Constitution.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 10:46 AM

BTW...Stop calling names! Bob was trying to be funny. I almost never agree with him but he is my friend and I will support his right to even tell a bad joke.

There are so many problems that it has to take telling the truth and working together. We have a gigantic mess and we have to demand it change...

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Beaumont

Jul-06-13 10:59 AM

That was not a joke other the spelling their wrong the founding fathers were slave owners. Many people had no rights. As for the so called name calling who cares.

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WatchDog

Jul-06-13 12:04 PM

Beaumont you would have done better to claim it was a joke because it most definitely not the full truth.

You need to read the Northwest Ordinance of 1787.

The Founding Fathers made successful efforts to contain or limit slavery throughout the United States and territories, including banning slavery in the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, and abolishing the international slave trade in 1807.

So therefore Beaumont, your statement was repugnant and that is just many of the reasons our Country suffers today. We are all being punished for what was once a way of life over a 100 years ago.

The only difference in today's America. WE ARE ALL NOW SLAVES TO GOVERNMENT.

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WatchDog

Jul-06-13 12:05 PM

Great post Whizkid!

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WatchDog

Jul-06-13 12:09 PM

Kozy, our Government and their control has been using every method they can to seize money from us. Those methods are growing rapidly.

As long as our country is this divided it is just going to continue. The two party system in America is failing. We don't have parties of progress, we have parties of power and that is what is the biggest problem we face. WE THE PEOPLE have lost all control on the HILL.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 12:13 PM

I agree, WatchDog...

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Beaumont

Jul-06-13 12:26 PM

Repugnant sums me up. The only thing that some worry about is money from the top down, enjoy the freedom you have, most people in the US don't know what loosing freedom is. But they are working on it right gov. K.

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Phoenix

Jul-06-13 12:34 PM

We are all slaves to GREED.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 12:36 PM

Yes, Bob...instead of "we the people" being in control of our freedoms, we are letting our governments grow and dictate. We need to pull back on this mess, whether democrat or republican. It's time to stop calling names, work together and, cut it back. It's time to get back to basics.

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 12:37 PM

BTW, I know you're not repungnant...just not "right".

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Kozy62

Jul-06-13 12:40 PM

Phoenix...to some that's true and to most it's accepting things as they are.

No matter, it's time to recognize that it has to change. "We" let it get this way and "We" need to change it.

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rpmwwe

Jul-06-13 12:46 PM

Whizkid, you summed it up just right. The nation has lost it's way.

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Phoenix

Jul-06-13 12:58 PM

Beaumont, nothing repugnant about you or your opinions, keep them coming.

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WatchDog

Jul-07-13 1:12 PM

The path we are on is frightening. What infamous year will it be when the headlines read: "The Fall of America"?

We are not working (jobs) to live. We are working in America to survive. The difference is so vivid.

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rpmwwe

Jul-07-13 5:00 PM

I foresee more of a fracturing apart occurring first. The areas of the U.S. that benefit the least from the so called "reforms" will eventually figure out that the only way to avoid being in violation of the Constitution and/or federal law while maintaining local order (both social and financial) is to become an entity that is not subject to either. The fall will begin with the subsequent territory disputes leading to conflict and the overall weakening of the former empire enticing aggressive foreign powers to invade.

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