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Council closer to returning tap-in authority to Weingart

May 14, 2014

SALEM — City Utilities Superintendent Don Weingart is one step closer to regaining authority to approve water and sewer service application....

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

May-16-14 11:38 PM

Iliketurtles, I haven't contradicted myself. The citizens living on the ends of the three streets in question are for the most part, not low income and have voiced the regret at not purchasing the land before the housing project got their option. I was just reminding them that waiting too long could be a problem. Also the land in question was changed to multi family in the 70s. The only change requested was to make the strip (I believe 6 acres) along Pershing multi family. It was commercial before and will be again if the project fails. Mr. Whitehill and I worked very hard to get a compromise of a buffer zone between the project and the existing homes to protect property values. We really had no say in whether or not the project went through. They are very determined. We just negotiated the best deal we could get based on the neighbors concerns. I understand your frustration. It's frustrating on my end too. Hang in there, and if you have suggestions, pls call me. I AM listening.

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iliketurtles

May-16-14 10:29 AM

Also cydni please don't use the word "slamming" anymore. We here that enough from MSN, HLN, CNN and all the other FOXTARDS news shows

Thanks!

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iliketurtles

May-16-14 10:25 AM

I do appreciate your comment " I urge you to act now." I will during the next election. I may be over reacting or just venting and rambling from frustration but I don't see anything good happening from the current council. Cyndi you have a huge upward battle and I will say I think you are the only one that seems to be trying.

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iliketurtles

May-16-14 10:20 AM

Really my statements are flawed??? You made three comments on three different posts and contradict your self in all of them...

You say times are tough in the article about the bank giving away a free house. Then say in the HHS housing article the neighbors should band together and start a fund to buy a bunch of land??? If times are tough then who the*****would buy a bunch of land when they are having enough trouble paying for the house they already own. Why did you morons change it to a residential zone in the 1st place? Buy land as a buffer zone? C'mon! What could possibly be worse than low income housing with a bunch of drug addicts and crime?? You want to make them walk a little further to brake into your house and steal stuff while your at work. I think we have enough of that here in town. It's sad when most stores advertise "We take Food Stamps" in the front window. Makes me not want to shop there since they cater to trailer trash.

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GrantMingus

May-16-14 10:17 AM

Turtles, I don't necessarily disagree with the things you said. But I still don't see how it applies to the actions of the city government.

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questioner

May-16-14 10:10 AM

Yes, Cyndi, I did see that you questioned the "why" regarding this, and as a resident I do appreciate seeing that questioning happening.

In answer to my question you said, "I would guess that they had other reasons that mr W didn't want to state before the press."

Unfortunately I think you're right, but I think maybe nS hit the nail on the head with, "just because they wanted to".

But it is that sort of lack of accountability (with no answer given to you or us by Mr W, and no demanding of an answer--altho I do understand the political reasons why an answer might not have been pushed for) that leads to the frustration that turtle-liker has.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

May-16-14 7:20 AM

Also, no one on the commissions are paid for their work there. Mr Nestic did say that but it went no further.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

May-16-14 7:18 AM

Iliketurtles, your. Argument is flawed. You are slamming an action by a council that is long gone. The council here now is trying to correct the issues of the past and now you want to vote us out? That appears to have already happened. I asked the question as to why the commission took over the application process and was told that they wanted to slow down the process. That makes no sense to me but I would guess that they had other reasons that mr W didn't want to state before the press. We voted to recommend that council give the sup. the power again so that businesses and developments don't have to wait a month to come to the commission. We don't want getting permits to be a long difficult process for a home owner or developer.

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questioner

May-15-14 3:36 PM

I will say, iliketurtles, you did a really good job of elaborating on what you said. Not everyone would/does/can. Grant may or may not agree with you, but he has to appreciate the fact that you responded.

(Now if someone could just tell Me any rational reason why the commission grabbed up more power and authority for themselves after there was voting on a fire district...)

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iliketurtles

May-15-14 2:21 PM

I'm not saying salem is a bad place but why would a company want to move here? 54% of the kids at buckeye school get free lunches. That means the parents are either really good at working the system or they are actually poor. The latter implies that they would have no money to spend at a store/restuarant in salem so that means 50% (i'm guessing) of the population here in salem aren't going to spend a dime at a new business unless they except food stamps or the welfare debit cards. So you can make all the pretty welcome to salem signs and hang fancy flags on light poles and it isn't going to acheive anything. Other than creating a job for 1 or 2 people for a few days...

I'm done ranting now.

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iliketurtles

May-15-14 2:13 PM

The tards must go means....

I've had enough with all the BS from government. The bureaucracy is ridiculous. Imagine having to go before council and bow before those almighty gods they think they are if you wanted a new phone line added to your house. It should be a simple phone call and schedule the hook up end of story. The people elected spend more time and money creating committees and sub committees and hiring the "good'ol boys club" to do work around town. Why do we need a "5 year plan" how about the today or tomorrow plan? The 5 year plan implies that moron will still be in office? Too many of these people in this town think it's 1955. The small town ambiance is gone. Its slowly turning into a subsidized low income town. Entire streets are full of rentals with nothing but welfare people hanging out on the porch chain smoking all day. Drive down 3rd sometime in the middle of the day. Trailer trash are hanging out waiting for the next hand out.

I'm

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questioner

May-15-14 2:12 PM

Hey Grant, I got agrees but no answer. I'm kind of assuming there is no good answer.

Why did the discussion about a fire district result in the utilities commission taking over approving water rights?

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GrantMingus

May-15-14 1:29 PM

I get a disagree and no answer? Figures.

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WatchDog

May-15-14 12:19 PM

Just out of curiosity, not to long ago, Nestic wanted to start paying salaries to these commission members. Anybody know if that got snuck in?

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GrantMingus

May-15-14 9:23 AM

Can someone please explain to me why "the tards must go" and outline the mutually agreed upon dysfunction of our city government? Since you're all so brilliant and everything...

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ladybug

May-14-14 4:16 PM

That dept .has more chiefs than it does Indians.

Like all utilities they has us by the b---.

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questioner

May-14-14 2:22 PM

I found it interesting that after the proposed fire district, the utilities commission felt they needed more new power over water and sewage so they enacted new authority for themselves.

Can someone explain that thought process to me?

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iliketurtles

May-14-14 2:17 PM

They need an assist so the supervisor can beat his head against the wall. To many people are involved in such a simple task. I should say "Too many people without the correct education or knowledge are involved". I'm going to vote against everyone who currently in office. The tards must go!

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WatchDog

May-14-14 10:29 AM

Heck I am still trying to get my head wrapped around why we need an "assistant" supervisor position?

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ladybug

May-14-14 9:47 AM

Isn't this the guy who was supposed to retire a few yrs. back ?

They even hired a replacement .

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