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Council advances indoor shooting rules

SALEM

April 2, 2014

City council held first reading on four ordinances related to legislation to allow indoor shooting ranges, but city Law Director Brooke Zellers said amendments may be required before any votes are......

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questioner

Apr-08-14 3:45 PM

Actually, I know the answer and it's a disappointing one. I'd just like to see that acknowledged in print.

But, I don't know what Salem Talks is--do you? If anyone does, let me know.

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GrantMingus

Apr-08-14 3:39 PM

Can you not go to a council meeting and ask?

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questioner

Apr-08-14 1:32 PM

You're not kidding. If it is this hard to get straight info (and if you remember, this is the 3rd council member I've asked about this) then I have to say, I see little hope to move forward as a city. I am disappointed.

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WatchDog

Apr-08-14 1:06 PM

The mystery of the 5 year plan still lives! LOL

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questioner

Apr-07-14 4:37 PM

This has to stay active until Cyndi can tell us what Salem Talks is. Has it been publicized to the general public? I didn't see anything under the Salem websites.

And I assume you would know, are other committees for the 5 year plan active?

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questioner

Apr-06-14 9:50 PM

I obviously have not heard of Salem Talks either. I know Mr Nestic didn't say anything about anything having started up.

There was something way back when this all was supposed to start with an email for Mr Nestic if one wanted to be involved. I emailed.

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WatchDog

Apr-06-14 4:50 PM

Councilwoman, what is "Salem Talks"? I have been trying to keep up with activity that City Council meetings do not cover. Can somebody from City council submit a list to during these City council meetings of all these different sites or Facebook pages. If people are not informed, they can't get involved if they don't know where or how to get involved. City council meetings do not offer a whole lot. All members of council may know what is being considered for legislation and the Salem news may highlight those matters, but the people need to know.

Ward one, has NOTHING I can find other than a Mr. Brown offering up a neighborhood meeting at time and place that doesn't encourage attendance. I understand you have a facebook page? Mr. Drummond has a site for ward three. Anything else?

By the way, thank you for addressing questioner's question. Very informative of who has been dropping the ball!

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

Apr-06-14 9:26 AM

Regarding the 5 yr plan; I was appointed jointly with Mr. Cushman to head the infastructure portion of the plan. This was midway thru since Mr. Brown resigned the position. Since then I have been asking for volunteers to sit on the committee. Recently after posting on Salem Talks, I got members. Thank you all. We will be having a meeting the end of April. We are still deciding a date that fits most, but it will happen.

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questioner

Apr-04-14 5:12 PM

Well, it seems I can't really get info about our supposed 5 year plan. Anyone out there know if it's just been misplaced, or if Mr Nestic did anything now that we have new councilmen, or if it's been postponed indefinitely?

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titans

Apr-03-14 6:31 PM

Clydes be behavior is very unbecoming an elected official. He is one step away from stalking. His job is to make laws or ordinances not enforce them. He hinders the job of the service director and the zoning officer with his constant innuendo and near harassment. He is a thorn in the side of the mayor and all other administrators at city hall. He is an embarrassment to his fellow council members, and his party!!

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questioner

Apr-03-14 7:49 AM

Is this the same 5 year plan Mr Nestic has said doesn't yet exist? (Something to do with people getting their noses out of joint, and other council members not returning his papers, plus the time of year). The sign ordinance is waiting for that? You might as well say it's been shelved and people need to reask all over again.

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RickDrummond

Apr-02-14 8:00 PM

Not as of yet. I believe that the issue of signs, may be part of the Planning and Zoning group that makes up the 5 year planning process.

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questioner

Apr-02-14 7:32 PM

Councilman, slight change in subject. Multiple people requested a change in the city ordinances prohibiting business signs that "stick out" at the same initial meeting where indoor shooting ranges were requested--has anything been done there?

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 5:08 PM

Councilman, thank you, that was the only clarification I was looking for based on ladybug's remark about the discharging of weapons in the city. The legislation will address that for indoor ranges, commercial or residential separately in its own legislation. I realize there will be gray areas.

If I am understanding this correctly. But I appreciate your response.

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RickDrummond

Apr-02-14 4:38 PM

Watchdog, you are correct. If both proposed ordinances (commercial and residential) were to be defeated, then the proposed change to allow the discharge of weapons in shooting ranges would no longer be needed and therefore likely withdrawn. In addition to the proposed changes introduced last night, if the ordinance to allow residential indoor ranges passes, then additional changes will be needed to address the needed changes to residential zoning ordinances. We won't introduced those until or if the residential ordinance passes. As always, I'm available by phone to answer any questions - 330 277-5668.

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 4:18 PM

I need to proof read before I click send.

The new legislation is only an exemption for the original legislation that prohibits discharging of weapons in the city. Correct?

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 4:13 PM

Councilman, I have a question.

"Besides the two ordinances to create the shooting ranges, there's a proposed ordinance noting the rule against the discharge of weapons in the city won't apply to indoor shooting ranges."

The new legislation if only an exemption for the original legislation that prohibits discharging of weapons in the city. Correct?

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RickDrummond

Apr-02-14 3:52 PM

Ladybug, if one person asks for a change and that change could benefit the entire city, then yes, why wouldn't we do it, even if only one person initially asks for it. Who knows, there could be many others that were thinking about asking for a change but just didn't want to start the ball rolling. Can you question the change? Absolutely.

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 3:47 PM

"Do we make a change to satisfy one request ,is it justified and shouldn't people have a right to question it ?"

Ladybug, he just explained that to you.

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ladybug

Apr-02-14 3:47 PM

Beer time .See you there.

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 3:45 PM

"And that is not the case in this issue and legislation! Again, thank you Councilman.

Correction! Sorry.

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 3:44 PM

"So, one person may initiate some of these changes, but the changes would apply to all residents of the City. Now, if a change made at the request of one person would harm everyone BUT the requester, you would be correct in questioning why we’d do that."

Thank you Councilman Drummnd! Maybe now he will accept that!

"Now, if a change made at the request of one person would harm everyone BUT the requester, you would be correct in questioning why we’d do that."

And that is not the case is this issue and legislation! Again, thank you Councilman.

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ladybug

Apr-02-14 3:42 PM

Watchdog go call some griefing parents stupid and lazy

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ladybug

Apr-02-14 3:41 PM

First of all Mr Drummond I didn't say a person wasn't entitled to make a request

Second of all I realize that changes some times need to be made,

My point once again and lets hope you and watchdog can follow it,

Do we make a change to satisfy one request ,is it justified and shouldn't people have a right to question it ?

Once you make an exception you now open the door for others,

And you say the zoning is screwed up in Salem ?????

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WatchDog

Apr-02-14 3:38 PM

Ladybug sez: " Go to*****.I never again never said he did,

Zoning officier ,Law Director Police what ever

Did you fall and hit your head sometime in life ?"

LOL! That is the best you can come back with?

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