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Tape details 911 call

PERRY TWP.

March 28, 2014

An emergency call which caused a question to be raised over the protocol for toning out the Perry Township Fire Department happened a little differently than originally described....

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questioner

Mar-28-14 2:46 AM

Well, watchdog, I guess you were right.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 6:26 AM

First of all the dispatcher telling KLG the fire dept are 1st responders is the same as a "No"

Second Protocol say when a request for assistance is made they are to be dispatched.

3rd of all a police officer with basic training doesn't qualify him presednce over people with 200 hr training .And was the officer considered a 1st responder ? Finally only 2 people can declare a person dead . A doctor or the coroner

So i'll stay with my opinion

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 6:26 AM

Sorry "are not "

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 6:31 AM

" Protocol "

Because a police officer is responding does override the call for assistance. Now you spread your peanut butter any way you like questioner and hope it doesn't happen to you or your family.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 6:54 AM

Sighting friction .

Nothing causes friction more between departments is when one starts stepping on the toes of the other .

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 7:02 AM

Did you read the last 2 paragraphs of the story questioner ?

I guess not .

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Justin84

Mar-28-14 7:31 AM

In my opinion it is pretty clear. The FD is not first responders, so calling them out to stand there and do nothing is a waste of time and money. They could have done exactly what the PD was doing. Use an AED, which wasnt helping. No sense in tying them up for no gain. And the lack of help from other jurisdictions makes lots of sense, no one can do someone else's work. If it were so simple why didnt salem FD respond? They have a mutual aid agreement. An ambulance cant always be right there, its not practical. And i agree with Stone's wanting to know why he wasnt asked about it when it happened. Its a********match between volunteer FD and the sheriff. All it boils down to is egos, not logistics. If it wouldnt have made the news none of you would care.

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Justin84

Mar-28-14 7:34 AM

There are a lot of PD on FD and the other way around. I dont think that makes them entitled to do more one way or the other. Does anyone really think either side wanted to let someone die? They all save lives.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 9:19 AM

Unless you know what your talking about stay out of it.

It's easier for 2 people to give CPR (1) They also carry Ox (2 ) The only thing they can't do right now is administer (3)

How many times do they respond to an accident ?OK guys lets just stand here !

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 9:21 AM

And some are more qualified. The training for an EMTA is over 200 hours now ,Plus you must pass a state test.

Iv'e given CPR 3 times and it 's no easy job if your stuck by yourself and every Tom Dick and Harry standing around nosing in.

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Crossman2

Mar-28-14 9:22 AM

Justin84- it clearly says in the article that Chief Whitcher was checking on the progress of the issue that he notified Trustee Rudibaugh about after the incident occurred. So, Mr. Rudibaugh was aware of the problem and did nothing about it. The last article about this quoted Stone saying he wondered why he had to find out about it from the media and thought he would have heard from Whitcher or the trustees. It's seems to me who dropped the ball, as usual.

As for the protocol itself, if my memory is correct the reason behind the fire department needing protocols in the first place was from instances where the fire department wasn't getting called out for calls? Now they have protocols and still not getting called out? So since the dispatcher failed to follow protocol shouldn't they be reprimanded?

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 9:23 AM

And then Stone should give up the dispatching service and turn it over to someone else if he can't deal with the comnplaints.

This wasn't the only time.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 9:24 AM

This isn't and wasn't the only fire service whose had issues since the start of 911

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titans

Mar-28-14 9:58 AM

Stone would never take blame for anything, it's just the way he is Why didn't they call Salem for help when dispatch was unable to make the right decision.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 10:05 AM

I seen the same thing happen 2 houses up 2 yrs. ago.

While everyone stumbled around thinking what to do.

Salem fire showed up and finally did something.The ambulance finally got there10 to 15 minutes later.

Perry Twn fire was never called ,Only 1/2 mi away.

The poor guy didn't make it.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 10:06 AM

Oh I might mention the PD was there.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 10:19 AM

So, moral of the story, either complain to complain or pony up and join with the city to get real services, Perry Township residents.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 11:01 AM

There's not a thing wrong with the service,

It's how there being implemented.

Salem had Perry's fire service 30 years ago and got stupid and selfish.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 11:04 AM

When you pay for dispatching services you count on it being done right.

Besides Salem offers nothing more or better than we have now. At a lot less money.

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ladybug

Mar-28-14 11:06 AM

Your little fire district offered nothing at improving services to both communities .

The way it was going Salem would have suffered big time.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 12:01 PM

LOL. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. Par for your course.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 12:05 PM

But hey, that's fine. Here is my proposal. We end mutual aid, Salem starts their own volunteer service to supplement the full timers in the event of a fire. We raise the water rates outside of the city so that we can lower ours in town. You don't want to play ball, then go home.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 12:16 PM

Because why do you need us if your services are just as good? Like the apartment fire in November, in Perry Township, where Salem showed up in less than 5 minutes and evacuated everyone, while Perry showed up with 2 guys five minutes after everyone was out of the building.

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GrantMingus

Mar-28-14 12:20 PM

Oh yeah, and those two guys had no equipment...

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PattiHannah

Mar-28-14 12:23 PM

ladybug writes: "I seen the same thing happen 2 houses up 2 yrs. ago.

While everyone stumbled around thinking what to do.

Salem fire showed up and finally did something.The ambulance finally got there10 to 15 minutes later.

Perry Twn fire was never called ,Only 1/2 mi away.

The poor guy didn't make it."

That is a very disturbing allegation ladybug. I would be more than happy to pull all public records on that alleged incident if you would be so kind to supply the address where that incident occurred that you personally wittnessed.

I would be more than happy to cross reference each agency's involvement and pull those incident reports. Then if it will satisfy you and the Public, I will be more than a happy to share that information here. Including all case number references so you ladybug can file an official complaint with the proper authorities in that alleged matter you speak about.

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