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Groups work to ‘Paint the Town’

September 6, 2013

SALEM — Volunteers who want the downtown spruced up are asking building owners to paint the town red, green, beige or whatever color it takes to make their locations more appealin....

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WatchDog

Sep-06-13 4:15 AM

What is that old saying? You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.

UNTIL this City recognizes and fixes the underlying problems this community faces, all that paint isn't going to change anything, except have it wear off with time.

Admire those over zealous efforts but it is a bigger picture than this attempt.

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OSU600

Sep-06-13 6:09 AM

At least they didn't ask for 50 bucks from everybody.

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CyndiBaronzziDickey

Sep-06-13 6:26 AM

It is a good start. I commend Mrs Grilli for her hard work. Studies have shown that when sad people smile and act happy, their overall mood improves. Maybe this will hold true for downtown. If they look good, people will start believing in the downtown and better things will happen there. And maybe that can spread to the rest of Salem.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 6:27 AM

Well watchdog I have to somewhat dis-agree,

You have to start somewhere.Cleaning up the town and making it more presentable is better than leaving look like a rat trap[.

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EATTHERICH

Sep-06-13 9:03 AM

it's a start.what about some of the neighborhoods?how about a crack down on the slum loards who only care about collecting rent.

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GrantMingus

Sep-06-13 9:09 AM

WatchDog, do you hate everything?

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 9:49 AM

Eat : I thought that why the city has housing inspectors ?

just added another part timer.

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concerned

Sep-06-13 10:12 AM

I would agree with some of you folks on this on the part about making the town look better. I applaud any private organization that wants to work to that end. Although I don't feel it is a function of the city government to actually get involved in the actual work. The city's legal involvement is and should only be on enforcement of public health and safety issues of private property. I think any fantasy that just making the downtown pretty is going to increase business is just a pipe dream. To increase business you have to sell a product that people want to buy at a price they can afford and the looks of the building they go to buy it at is not really a big factor in most shopper's mind. Especially those that are living on the average income for our city. These folks have to watch every penny and can't afford to pay more for glitz and glamour. They want value for their money as they have to make their money stretch as far as they can.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 10:21 AM

Wrong,

I would rather by that product in a safe ,clean and hopefully growing neighborhood.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 10:40 AM

Your not paying for the glitz and glamour,

If they don't offer competative prices they will fail.

One good buss can attract another

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concerned

Sep-06-13 11:12 AM

Ladybug Where is the cost to fix up all these buildings going to come from? Some of these buildings are not even structurally sound. If the property owners put money in them, they are going to have to get that money from somewhere. It is a catch 22 for the small business man. He has to pay top dollar for his merchandise because he can't buy in volume like the big boys and he has to cover all his expenses including improvements which is reflected in his prices that they have to charge in order to do that. The higher his prices the less he sells. Responsible people that are barely able to feed their families are not going to pay higher prices than they have too. They only have so much money to go around. That is why they shop at the dollar stores and the larger retailers because they are able to get their needs for less because those stores are operating on large volumes. That is just a fact of life. If a store don't have enough sales volume they are not going to survive.

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GrantMingus

Sep-06-13 11:22 AM

Anyone advocating for downtown revitalization better not be caught shopping anywhere but downtown.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:28 AM

Where does the money come from to fix your house ?

Your ideas are repressive .We need to build our cities,states and country ..

We need to make things grow ,not more of the same.

Where do you think the money comes from to fix your streets,hire more police etc.

Tax payers and when you have over 50% of it's citizens living in poverty ,your going no where

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:30 AM

And what are you suggesting Grant, Let everything go. Just more of the same,

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:36 AM

You put buss. in the down town area that doesn't compete directly with the "big boys "

Or would you rather see it turn more a rat trap than it already is.

Those bldg. that's structurely onsound are the fault of the property owners and they should to made to make them safe or tear them down.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:41 AM

Parts of the city looks like s---. The streets are decaying.It's only town around without a motel.

We have an express way that goes nowhere,

Basically the majority of jobs created over the last 10 yrs. are minimum low wages jobs.

A person making 50000/yr will pay over 500 in income taxes to the city.

A person making 18000/yr will pay 180

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:42 AM

I support the city where possible Grant,

Do you ?

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questioner

Sep-06-13 11:43 AM

I'd like to challenge council members and other workers at City Hall to tell us where, when and how often they shop downtown. (Would any store recognize them as a regular customer?) If they work downtown and yet don't shop downtown, then they need to reevaluate things for themselves before investing time and energy and money in revitalization. Spending money In the stores has as much or more value than spending money On the stores.

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 11:47 AM

Let me ask this questioner,

Whats down town to draw people there ?

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 12:15 PM

You know questioner.

Another point to go along with your comment.

If people would buy American made products. We might see job growth.

There's already talk of some buss moving back.

Because wages are rising overseas and the cost and time to ship the products are increasing

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questioner

Sep-06-13 12:21 PM

I will admit, there are not a huge number of stores downtown. But most of what are left do provide good value. Besides museums, the theater, restaurants and a coffeeshop, there is an office supply store, a jewelry store, Christy's Barbershop (a great value for a haircut), Natural Solutions (make-up, etc), the Fitness Club (available 24/7), a Tae Kwon Do studio, the pet store, a bridal and formalwear store, 3 discount stores (and they do good business), Lion and Lamb (which has kids books, new books and cards sale-priced at 99 cents and up), Price2Sell Music (which is a great place to have locally), Daydreamers--a kids art studio (again, great to have locally), antique stores. Does Salem need more? Yes. Does it need to have stores that are geared toward value-conscious shoppers? Yes. Would it be nice to be able to support more boutique and niche stores? Yes. But no one should write-off downtown if they haven't been downtown lately.

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questioner

Sep-06-13 12:37 PM

And, Ladybug, too often we wrongly think American-made will also be more expensive, like we may wrongly think about downtown ;)

I just found lightbulbs, yes they were no name, but American made, for so much less than not American made name brands. (Now I'll still have to see how they work....)

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 12:41 PM

And let me ask this questioner ?

Would you feel more compfortable shopping in a clean presentable store or some run down one ?

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questioner

Sep-06-13 1:09 PM

Obviously, clean and presentable. And obviously, "sprucing up" downtown (and all around the town) is a good thing. And I have nothing but praise for volunteers and those who donated supplies. But I would prefer to see city council, etc actually shopping downtown. I know there was a city member who under-wrote some businesses downtown. But did (does) he actually shop downtown?

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ladybug

Sep-06-13 1:10 PM

Some of this China crap your forced to buy.

I don't know how many "name " brand shoes I bought made in China or near about are falling apart

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