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Tower ladder makes converts, but nearly $1M sticker shocks

July 3, 2013

SALEM — City council members witnessed firsthand the difference in capabilities between a new 100-foot tower ladder fire truck and the Salem Fire Department’s 70-foot ladder truck, but they’re still......

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 12:37 PM

Jeff must be in competition with Beechwood Ohio. They just picked up a 130 foot ladder truck for 800,000. The tallest ladder tuck in Ohio to date. But they of course have at least 14, 10 which are nine story structures in heights, including six apartments, the Hilton Hotel, Ahuja Medical Center and the monster Eaton Corp. building.

What was it Capt. Steve Holtzman said, oh yeah, it's totally useless in neighborhoods, takes to long to get there with the truck, set it up and takes almost 4 minutes just to extend it. So they rely on their 70 foot ladder trucks for better efficiency and safety for the fireman.

You know Jeff, the internet is a USEFUL tool when doing homework. But hey, look at this way. You want park a million dollar ladder truck in garage in case Salem hospital catches fire knock yourself out. But when you bankrupt this city the taxpayers will be more than happy to start cutting your salaries and benefits back!!

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 12:47 PM

Hey Drummond, on your little trip up while you were playing on that ladder. Did you think about long term costs? Maintenance? Gas prices? Have that Salesman take that truck into our neighborhoods and TIME IT. Then when you done..****e into the reality. This isn't Columbus,Cleveland, Toledo or some of the major cities in Ohio that only have 100 foot trucks. Grow a brain.

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 1:10 PM

Hey I have an idea Jeff. You want blow smoke up council members that buy your BS, go ahead and think bigger than this...go for a helicopter. You can fly down to the reservoir and fill that baby up and dump it on Salem hospital. Fireman safety won't be a problem then, right? L.M.A.O.

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Mtlhed

Jul-03-13 2:16 PM

My initial thoughts exactly when I read this this morning. A million bucks so that if on the .001% chance in the next 100 years that the top floor of the hospital catches on fire with anything bigger than a trash can fire, city planners can say, "Hey, see? that was a worthwhile investment!" LOL

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Mtlhed

Jul-03-13 2:23 PM

It's easy to fall prey to "flowers in the gun barrel" liberalism where the basic premise is that it's ok to spend an infinite amount of money if just 1 life can be saved. In the real world, sometimes you just burn to death because you were just at the wrong place at the wrong time and the FD just couldn't get to you in time.

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qcityfan

Jul-03-13 3:31 PM

Yeah, but what if a cat gets stranded in someone's 120 foot oak tree?

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:45 PM

All of you are entitled to your opinions,

It's alot of money and sooner or later you will need to replace it just like the police crusiers.

Know on the other hand anyone of you who would like to put on that euqipment .and go into a burning bldgh with temps reaching 2600 degrees plus.Try it sometime

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:47 PM

And as far as you cat calls. It's not any different than the ole barking dog,or someone stole .60 out of ash tray BS.

So grow up

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:48 PM

What happened to those 10 firefighters could just as easily happen any where,

But of course ole qucity and expert.

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:48 PM

19ff

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:52 PM

All of a sudden we have all these experts .

Down right down and volunteer your help.

You wouldn't even need training you already know it all.

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 5:59 PM

So if the bldg, isn't 100ft high there's no other use for it.

On the other hand if it's over 70ft. they'll just half to wait until it burns down that low.Right.qucity ?

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ladybug

Jul-03-13 6:01 PM

Mtlhed.

Keep that thought in mind the night you loose the whole town and you didn't have the equip. to reach.

Thats when super (Q ) steps in.

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concerned

Jul-03-13 6:44 PM

It might be nice to have something like this truck in the remote chance that it might be needed. But the city leaders have an obligation to spend our money wisely. Our city has many more pressing needs than this one to spend our tax dollars on.

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 9:00 PM

Bug says: "Keep that thought in mind the night you loose the whole town and you didn't have the equip. to reach."

Bug for once in your life use a little common sense. In the whole state of Ohio, there is not one city that has a truck and ladder system that will reach. If Cleveland has 31 structures all over 1400 ft. tall what do you think they do when a fire breaks out? If they can get by with their 120 ft ladder trucks then I think our boys can do the same with their 70 foot ladder in this little small town. Come into reality bug. Spending that kind of money for one structure is irresponsible and off the charts of stupid.

Stop being a big crybaby.

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 9:18 PM

And ladybug, what does the death of 19 elite hotshots have to do with a ladder truck? NOTHING

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WatchDog

Jul-03-13 10:19 PM

"He had applied for a grant last year for a new ladder truck, but the application was denied."

And why do you think that happened? You have to show what in asking for a grant?

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notSocialist

Jul-04-13 5:41 AM

Knead?

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 8:37 AM

Watchdog.For once in your life think that a 23yr. old will not last forever,

The sooner you consider replacing it the betteroff you will be,

Or like the police dept.End up with a bunch of old warn out veheciles.Thank goodness there on there of replacing them.

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 8:41 AM

The death of the 19 have nothing to do with this,It's the attitudes of some who think these people do nothing but get cats out of trees.

Kind of like the police responding to clucking chickens or barking do

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 8:47 AM

Maybe if people like you would go and get some info first hand once in awhile instead of just constantly ******** about everything.

You where complaining when the police dept started replacing crusiers with drug money.

If you city leadership had an once of brains they would have a fund to replace their equipment on a time period basis,

That ladder truck will just keep going up in price and sooner or later the old one will fail.

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 9:00 AM

Ok concerned whats your answer ? The ladder truck is 23 yrs. and sooner or later will need replaced.Not only for fire protection but insurance purposes,

While you set back and let things go,your 2 pumpers are getting older ...Now to set back and asume nothing could happen downtown or to one of you major buss in town is just playing the odds .

I think if you would replace a piece of equipment you would certainly get a bigger unit with more reach rather than go backwards.

But who cares it's your town and most of you live in your own little world,

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 9:10 AM

Watchdog.You come on here and slam your fire chief,slam your coucil people and blow smoke about something you know nothing about.

No this isn't cleveland,cinn or new york.

But ecah city has it's own needs andthe people running the city has an obligation to atleast look and listen .Get facts to make an honest decision rather than listen to all the hot air.

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 9:15 AM

If that ladder truckisn't kept up to meet certain standards it could lose it's rating which could possibly have an affect on insurance rates in town.

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ladybug

Jul-04-13 9:19 AM

Your right about priorities concerned.Too bad everyone waited to things hit bottom to start considering it.

It was too easy to raise taxes ,problem solved.

Now they have more problems than resources.But it seem they have money to keep hiring.You have 2 people running your water dept. Thought one was retiring ?

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