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Offer alternatives to lives in crime

April 3, 2013

A few area residents may remember a time when some young men headed down the wrong road in life were given two options: Join the military or go to jai....

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ShelleBelle

Apr-07-13 12:16 AM

You are assuming that people 'heading down the wrong road in life' or young men who find themselves in the justice system are "miscreants"??really?? That is not what fills our jails & prisons!!It is mostly non-violent offenders, 80% of who have a drug problem. Why would a rational person with no hidden agenda believe that throwing these young 'offenders' in anything other than drug treatment/counseling will HELP them become productive members of society? We've all seen emotional scars of serving during active war & to call incarceration 'rehabilitation' is laughable,we've seen them too!But,I would imagine the government would like to make you believe that these million$$ prisons & military made men are all 4 the young mens benefit!NOT THEIRS, RIGHT? They don't care about these young ppl !!THIS DOESN'T HELP DISTURBED YOUNG PEOPLE.Theres so many ppl serving time(& securing many govern.jobs)there arent many left to serve 'their'country. Throw away low~lifes=THEI

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ShelleBelle

Apr-07-13 12:24 AM

**throw away low-lifes = their $$ & their kids stay protected from going out & risking their neck to serve. Maybe their young adult children can be the guys in the suits deciding things for everyone else as well. This is more $$ into programs that secure the gov.'s $$ & place in society.Meanwhile our kids dont matter.They never have & by 'OUR' I mean, every parent who isnt a politician or the $$ ppl that make decisions for those politicians.They don't care about any of us. I cant believe ppl still think they do!! .

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WatchDog

Apr-15-13 1:35 PM

ShelleBelle self absorded writes: "You are assuming that people 'heading down the wrong road in life' or young men who find themselves in the justice system are "miscreants"??really??"

YES, yes and YES, they broke the law. THEY BROKE THE LAW. Their CHOICE, their decisions, their mistakes, their problem, their FAILURES.

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WatchDog

Apr-15-13 1:36 PM

"Why would a rational person with no hidden agenda believe that throwing these young 'offenders' in anything other than drug treatment/counseling will HELP them become productive members of society?"

Because the drug treatment/counseling is a FAILURE system.

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WatchDog

Apr-15-13 1:55 PM

What is your personal agenda ShelleBelle?

You one of those who profit (employed) from those useless rehabilitation programs that taxpayers are hindered with in funding? Are you a parent that failed miserably? Are you a parent that is trying to find every excuse in the book for your misfit child so you can dump the burden on the rest of us?

What is your personal agenda?

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Kozy62

Apr-15-13 1:56 PM

Received this from our Daughter this morning...

"Just found out a level 3 sex offender who hurt boys the same age as my boys just moved into the house right behind us. Our back yards meet. I am so upset. Trying to take a deep breath and even process what this means for our family -- for the freedom my children have had to play freely in their own yard or ride their bikes around the neighborhood. Having a hard time breathing and trying to stop the tears before the kids see me. How much longer, Dear Lord? How much evil will continue before You say "Enough!?"

Why isn't he in jail? The State of NY just passed added gun laws, so what protection does a family have. Do you think Cuomo or Shummer will their to protect?

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Kozy62

Apr-15-13 1:57 PM

sorry...be there...

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sunshine72

Apr-15-13 2:19 PM

Hmm. I don't know kozy, what would Jesus do if such a person moved in his backyard?

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Kozy62

Apr-15-13 2:36 PM

Minister to him...point out his sin and if the man asked...heal him. The is no evidence that he has changed except he no longer is in jail.

Do you think we should not pray? Do you believe we should not be concerned and diligent?

Not certain why you asked that?

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sunshine72

Apr-16-13 8:45 AM

lol it wasn't a good save actually. it was the answer a pharisee would give.

and how do you know there is no evidence he hasn't changed? has your daughter reached out to him? maybe you should talk to her about what a true christ follower really does. or maybe you don't know? it's not always easy remember.

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sunshine72

Apr-16-13 8:48 AM

On the other hand, praying is good. As long as we aren't praying like the Pharisee, only thanking God that we "aren't like those lowly scum" If you remember, Jesus said that wasn't a very good prayer..

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 10:26 AM

Oh. sunshine...you are calling me a Pharisee? On what grounds? The man raped little children and I'm wrong for praying? It's wrong to ask God to protect my Grandchildren?

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 10:27 AM

BTW...can't find lowly scum in the Bible.

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sunshine72

Apr-16-13 10:53 AM

I can't find that I called you that..?

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 2:09 PM

sunshine...And I just want to remind you of how Christians should think about such things. There should be a couple of thoughts that enter the minds of Christ-followers every time there is evil. Let me suggest a few: 1.We live in a fallen, sin-cured world.This world is broken and because of sin, sinners do terribly wicked and sinful things. Although each instance shocks us, we should never be surprised. 2.Hope is not found in capturing the perpetrator. When we capture the individual(s) who did this evil, that won't solve the problems of our world. We root for justice in these situations and we want justice, and that is good. But we can't set our hope in capturing the evil person...(continued)

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 2:15 PM

(continued)...

3.The cross of Christ is the only remedy for evil. Tighter security will not keep us safe. More laws will not guarantee things from happening (I'm not opposed to proper laws for public safety, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking solutions are found in more laws). It is only radically changed hearts - whose compositions have been rearranged by the Gospel - that can solve the problem of evil.

4.God is sovereign and can be trusted. I don't understand why He allows such things as raping children, but I know for certain He is sovereign and can be trusted, and that is where my hope is.

When we keep those four things in mind, it helps us to navigate and pray with a purpose. What other Truths should be kept in mind at times like this? Do you have suggestions?

A Pharisee, I don't believe so, a Grandpa and Father who is separated by lots of mileage, yes...and I love them so.

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rightway

Apr-16-13 2:18 PM

Kozy, When did Jesus point out the specific sin of anyone, other than the religious leaders of the time? He didn't ask questions, he just offered up the love.Most people today want to make sure someone is worthy enough of that love.

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 2:38 PM

rightway...

Jesus as God knew and knows our sin, and he instructed those He was in contact with to sin no more...if the sin was not recognized, how could He instruct.

The major difference now is that because Jesus shed His blood and through that grace, we are saved and our sin is washed away.

Also, remember what He said to Judas as one example. What about Peter? I know you understand and love the time to answer...but beyond anything...God cares and wants us with Him forever.

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Kozy62

Apr-16-13 2:51 PM

Jesus told Simon that her sins were many, but that he forgave them because she “…loved much. “…But,” he continued, “to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little” (Luke 7:47). Simon couldn't have missed the point, and the woman was saved by her faith.

You see, even though the woman was a sinner...her faith saved her...

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