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TAC members propose $2M downtown plan

SALEM

February 20, 2013

The Downtown Salem Technical Advisory Committee presented its plan to the Committee of the Whole of City Council Tuesday night, asking council to take several actions related to buildings, parking,......

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fredom

Feb-26-13 1:17 PM

The only good thing in the whole plan is the truck route, I used to drive a 53 foot tractor trailer and Salem is a bad town to drive through, bypass should have been completed in the 70's

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notSocialist

Feb-24-13 7:44 AM

Liverpool should move quickly; Salem, not so fast February 24, 2013 Morning Journal News.

"While much of this already sounds like a plan to create a utopian fantasy, the most controversial part is its proposed funding source. The TAC is proposing a tax of $50 per resident in the city of Salem for two years to provide funding for the redevelopment. A per capita tax? Surely that isn't what they meant. Think of the burden this would be for families who are already struggling to get by."

Full editorial: morningjournalnews.c om/page/content.detail/id/546390/Liverpool-should-move-quickly--Salem--not-so-fast.h tml?nav=5016

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bobprice

Feb-23-13 6:37 PM

It seems funny that cahill only wants to post with someone for a fight but does not care to post when someone ses any way to help out then he post on facebook that no one has any ideas to help with the project and i guess they that he want comment cause its not one of the rich high class people that suggested it. CAHILL if you look at all the things that people do to spend money on Salem doesnt have any and the one thing they do have no one is smart enough to capitalize on

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WatchDog

Feb-23-13 5:14 PM

I seen I don't know how many people bashed over the Stadium wall project. Treated disrespectfully for disagreeing with that project and how it was being handled. I seen comments that totaly intimidated and embarrassed people that could not afford to donate money to that cause. A cause that was to big and a dream that was not realistically obtainable. In all sense, the committed fraud which this project.

It will be the almost the same with this project.

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WatchDog

Feb-23-13 5:02 PM

Welcome to Salem. I feel your pain stavros, there a quite a few Salem residents in this City struggling to keep their heads above water.

Unfortunately, we live in a community that income levels are to be defined as a persons worth and being. People of lower incomes in Salem are treated as trash and illiterates in any other matter but when it comes to the demand of money or for a vote. You are only then as equal then as the rich guy down the street. That is Salem's mentality.

Scott Cahill proved that point with his demand for money, his observance of residents commenting here on the Salem News and his remarks that were totally uncalled for. He insulted low income families. He is projecting "by God, I am a powerful man" and I will get this and you poor people need to shut up and pay.

I have just had enough of this. I am sick to death of watching people in this city treated as such and other business owners treated unfairly.

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stavros

Feb-23-13 10:54 AM

I left out part of a sentence, It should read It is the obligation of the property owner.

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stavros

Feb-23-13 10:51 AM

My sister is a single mom raising three kids on a limited income. If the $50 tax is a so-called census tax, that would cost her $200 each year, so tell me Mr. Cahill what week would you pick for her not to buy groceries for her family, because that $200 is vital for her families survival. If you expect that all families in this city who live on limited incomes to go without food or medication, or even utilities would be devastating to those families well being. I remember salem as a vital hub in the years gone by but over the years people quit shopping in the downtown when the Malls were built. I for one have to shop at Walmart, I can not afford to shop at Peebles and I refuse to buy out of town. I want my tax dollars to stay in Salem. I want the downtown revitalized, but I feel that is the obligation of the Why can hospital get bonds from the city for renovations? Let the city apply for the bonds for this revitalization and not do this on the backs of the residents Mr. Cahill

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dubfun

Feb-23-13 8:26 AM

I am not against the spirit of this plan, but I am against the proposed funding method. The one hundred dollars I would be expected to fork over could be used to buy paint for my front porch or other maintenance I need to do on my house. I easily spend more than that on my lawn each summer. Why should I give money to a downtown property owner when they should be maintaining their property from their own pockets? I would like to know who is going to voluntarily give ME money to fix my roof or put in new windows. If I walked into one of these businesses with my hands out they would laugh me out of town.

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bobprice

Feb-22-13 11:39 PM

You can agree or completely disagree but i said this before. They want to clean up the town then get with the realitors,rentors, elderly homeowners and put the community service people to work . Im not the perfect person ,and i have made mistakes , and i have done community service . But the thing that p-i-s-s-e-s me off is the people in their dont do a*****thing as much cleaning of that building that everyone supposively does is no where close to the work they actually do.he work that is said is done should have all the paint worn off the walls period. I see other towns having their c/s workers doing for the town,NOT salem they do nothing to help out, it would hurt them C/S people on bit to get out of that building to do some real work something productive for the town.They can paint ,mow grass ,rake clean glass wipe stuff down, and throw junk away all at the comunity center right beside the library. Then why not do it for the town .1 it free labor. 2 it beautifies the city

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bobprice

Feb-22-13 11:22 PM

im glad you like my comment to pull your head out of your a>S>S i voice my opinion proudly on how to help this town and its just over looked with such ease. I guess that explains how the town has got to were it is . You say you want stores to come it to down town well for one you need to get the stores in that people want to shop at the list about that goes on and on for one you have a shop that can draw in amazing business and hes stuck on the secondary road at broadway you have two dollar generals in salem NOT one single clothing store theres 4 auto parts stores in town not a single named resturant place to draw people in town. IM not just some idiot iseethe bigger picture imnot just stuck on one event idea im stuck on i live in this town and we all as a group need to work on fixing it up .

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bobprice

Feb-22-13 11:09 PM

i would like to know what their page is for facebook. maybe he just dont understand my post on here

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:20 PM

Seriously Cahill, did you really think you could slip one of my comments from the Salem news and plaster it on your TACky FB page and attempt to humiliate me with the other 49 tacs to promote support?

Seriously, Cahill don't they deserve better representation than that? It is not a popularity contest Cahill, act accordingly. Again, this coming from a man that expects us to trust him with a 2 million dollar investment. That is so funny.

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:12 PM

Grant asks: "Mr. Cahill, can I get some clarification."

He doesn't do well with opposition and questions. Great question however. That was a nail hitter!

But don't forget he assumes we are all ignorant and just "powerless little men" and should just shut up and fork over the demand money!

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:06 PM

bobprice sez: "Cahill pull your head out of your *** you act like your the sheriff in this town."

Dang and I thought it was just me in that thinking! Thank you bob! Great point.

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:04 PM

questioner asks "Were any business owners currently downtown invited?"

That is a great question. Is there a possibility that they weren't? Hmmm, that is certainly interesting. Opens the door that means I may need to have to apologize to some of them for assuming they were part of the Cahill power play.

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:01 PM

Cahill writes: Feb-22-13 8:29 AM

"WatchDog, you are pretty outspoken. Who are you? A name, please."

You already know the name.

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WatchDog

Feb-22-13 7:00 PM

Grant you want to borrow our insect repellant? Doesn't he get tiresome? Hang in there, he is just one those fence hoppers. He only disagrees to disagree and you will have to pretty much get use to it with those one liners that leave you going nuts trying to understand it. LOL

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ladybug

Feb-22-13 3:57 PM

Say all you want.Do you really think i care 'NO"

Mr.Cahill joined the conversation on here.Yea after 80 % of them beat him to death .

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GrantMingus

Feb-22-13 3:40 PM

Not to mention, Mr. Cahill joined the discussion right here on the Salem News page. So I'd say he's inviting questions. You're a moron, plain and simple, I could say more but I'm not going to waste my time.

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questioner

Feb-22-13 3:39 PM

Historical Society, Preservation Society, Beautification Committee--they were invited to the meetings. Were any business owners currently downtown invited?

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GrantMingus

Feb-22-13 3:37 PM

Are you kidding me? Can you read? All I've done is ask a few questions, I'm one of the few who don't necessarily like the plan who actually applauded Mr. Cahill and his group for putting something real together. I even said I would vote FOR the tax! YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

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ladybug

Feb-22-13 3:24 PM

Why should anyone like salem1361 said put forth and effort when this is the type of response you get on everything.

Of course these same people are never visiable at any of the meetings.

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ladybug

Feb-22-13 3:08 PM

The place to ask all your questions was at one of those meetings instead of knocking the guy and his plan on here,

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ladybug

Feb-22-13 3:05 PM

I haven't heard you say anything postive Grant.

Just complain and knock the man and others who helped him to the ground. Did you take part in any of the meetings ? Put forth all forth all the expertice on every subject you seem to have,

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salem1361

Feb-22-13 2:54 PM

The comments on this board are exactly why I don't think this plan will go forward. Salem is a very divided community. The "artsy" group forgets that there are people who live here that need Walmart items and the Walmart people don't want to fund any growth no matter what. You need a true cross section that works together and I don't know how you accomplish that. Without doing anything Salem is doomed to fail and slip into ghetto oblivion. I gave up after 10 years of wanting to see Salem succeed, but you get nowhere in this town. I hope this does go forward because property values depend on it. Good luck to anyone trying to get anything done but expect a lot of doors slammed in your face for trying.

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