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Sheriff will skip online gun debate

February 19, 2013

LISBON — Columbiana County Sheriff Ray Stone is unlikely to join the ranks of those county sheriffs who say they will refuse to enforce any changes in the nation’s gun laws they believe are......

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Mtlhed

Feb-21-13 9:09 AM

If you don't or can't carry at work, why would you carry at a school?

Beaumont did you actually read my post, or just skim over it? What I said was, "The people who already work in schools who don't carry while at work---BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALLOWED AT SCHOOL--- would gladly carry into their school once it does become allowed." DUH..

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GrantMingus

Feb-21-13 7:47 AM

The Tea Party has been largely hijacked by the GOP, but has produced most of the few who are willing to do what needs to be done. We have to start putting our faith in candidates, for their own merits, and not parties.

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GrantMingus

Feb-21-13 7:13 AM

I disagree. The establishment republicans wouldn't fix the problem, they'll just talk about it as a means to get elected. Just like Obama did. They won't actually do anything. When it comes down to it, very few of these people are wiling to make any tough decisions.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 9:07 PM

Are you sure of that? Half the people are voting for representation that doesn't even think we have a spending problem.

You pointed out what is probably our biggest problem, who created it. It doesn't matter who created it, it's here and we have to do something about it. But I hear ideas that are more of the same, when I say do something, I don't mean more of the same.

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Phoenix

Feb-20-13 8:58 PM

Most people recognize the problem Grant, they just disagree on who created it and how we solve it.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 8:32 PM

And for the record, I have never claimed to have all the answers, but at least I can recognize the problem.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 8:30 PM

First of all you can cut A LOT out of offense. But we have to start calling it that. It's not defense, we've been on offense since WW2. It's hugely expensive.

But a good place to start would be to end the assumption that the most efficient way to spend our money is to send it to Washigton, let it go through the bureaucratic process and then have our representatives beg for it back. The federal government was never designed or intended to do most of the things they do.

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Phoenix

Feb-20-13 8:15 PM

Out with it Grant, what exactly do you propose we cut besides defense? Let me guess, education, EPA, Medicaid, Medicare, home mortgage deduction, etc, oh and let's not forget social security. How about we just privatize everything?It's not like there're greedy people out there who would take advantage of that. Just as long as we don't have a balanced approach and raise any more revenue.

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Beaumont

Feb-20-13 6:41 PM

If you don't or can't carry at work, why would you carry at a school?

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Beaumont

Feb-20-13 6:28 PM

Why don't they carry at work?

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Mtlhed

Feb-20-13 6:08 PM

Dang Ladybug your scull is thick. Do you really think I'm the only guy who would volunteer? There are probably thousands who actually work in a school who would do it in a heart beat, many whom already carry when not at work so it's not that big of a deal. If only the hand wringing burocrats above them would let it happen. Again, oh well. I'll just cross my fingers it doesn't happen in one of my grand kid's schools, because protection right now is a joke.

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Beaumont

Feb-20-13 6:07 PM

Great idea of cutting Rand Paul!

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 6:06 PM

You're exactly right and we always will be if we continue voting for the same establishment parties who put us in the mess.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 6:05 PM

Today Rand Paul announced that his Senate office is returning $600,000 to the Treasury in operating cash that they didn't spend last year. And you tell me no cuts can be made.

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:56 PM

These don't agree on anything.

We have lots of problems in this coutry and where mired in the mud over the same thing all the time.

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:54 PM

Come on for once.

I never said not to do anything.I agree where going under.

Talk to the politicians,We should have never been here to begin with.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 5:46 PM

There are most definitely cuts that can be made, I have very high doubts that those cuts will be made. But what are you saying? Just don't do anything about the debt or our spending problem? If you care about the security of the nation (which I'm assuming you do because you keep mention "defense") then you have to come up with the money to cut. You do realize what will happen when we go completely belly up, right?

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:40 PM

You and i both know it will never happen because votes and keeping our job is more important.

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:38 PM

There's not enough places to make cuts to balance the budget ,little lone start on the dedt.I agree.I've said this before.

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:36 PM

They reduced the pentagons budget around 50 to 60 billion.

This is another automatic cut of 45 billion,which they say they can't affored,There's also 40 billion in domestic cuts, And oh by god no it doesn't balance the budget and your right the dedt will keep going up.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 5:33 PM

The sequester takes something that we planned to spend 100 billion on and adjusts it to only spend 80 billion. That is not a cut. It's still 80 billion in new spending.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 5:29 PM

You have to actually balance the budget before you can pay anything down on the debt, with the sequester we will add 7-8 trillion to our debt in 10 years...that's not a balanced budget. You can't do it at the same time, but you can never pay down the debt if you never balance the budget.

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 5:27 PM

Was the Pentagon not saying they didn't need more money just a few months ago? Why would they be cutting domestic things...hmm, I don't know, could be the fact that were in 170 some countries with 900 some military bases and we can't afford it. SEQUESTRATION IS NOT A CUT IT IS A CAP ON GROWTH. If you're growing you aren't cutting, what part of this don't you understand? Why would the Pentagon do a complete 180 all of a sudden? Probably because the Commander in Chief doesn't want to follow through with a plan that was his idea and told them to generate some press against it...you know, typical Washington politics. You believe anything you hear, so long as it fits your narrative. You're a sheep.

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ladybug

Feb-20-13 5:24 PM

Thats possibly so.

So where do you cut enough to elimanate the debt and at the same time balance the budget.

You can't

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GrantMingus

Feb-20-13 5:24 PM

Mtlhed is right, in fact I read something yesterday that said there was evidence that Lanza wanted to outdo the one European shooter with 77 victims and he picked a school because its a collection of unarmed people. Notice how he shot himself before the police did? These scum bags don't want guns pointed back at them.

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